George W. and Fannie Young Stanley on their porch at Tad, WV
|
Matthias Young and Anna Margaretta Fey |
PLEASE NOTE: Clearly much work went into the original researching of this data, and for that I am very grateful! My former sister-in-law, Vonda Kay Sigmon [Mitchell] Gwin, told me that her brother, Robert Sigmon (RESigmon@fuse.net), did some of the original research, and it was she who gave my mother, Dorothy Lee Keeney Gwin, a copy of his book. When mother died in 2005, I inherited this copy.The book's first page does indeed list as co-authors "Kenneth Cavender, who 'dug up' most of the enclosed names and dates" and "Robert Sigmon, who dug up some names and performed all manual chores," and also states, "Made for Vonda Mitchell, January 1977, so she would know her roots--Love, Bob Sigmon".
When I decided to transcribe Bob's material to this page, however, I saw that the format of the original only used varying degrees of indentation to distinguish generations; no numbers or other characters were used. To facilitate reading, then, I have here attempted to continue using those indentations but adding numbers as well, the pre-decimal number indicating the generation, the post-decimal number indicating the birth order within the family.
In at least one place, I was not able to read the indentations correctly, those indentations seeming to vary from one page to another, making it nearly impossible to interpret to which generation a given entry might belong. I attempted but failed to contact Vonda's brother to correct my error(s). For years, then, I caused those parts in question to as a caution to the reader. However, on 5 Mar 2009 I received an email from Cousin Jackie Sue Young who shared the lot of data listed below in this green; it helped to clarify those indentation problems in the area of that flashing information, especially since it highlighted for me and seemed to confirm a comment received earlier from Cousin Olive Basham that there were NINETEEN children of Harvey Hudson Hamilton Young and Olive Mae Buckley.
Other contributors include Cousins Mae Van Dinter, Norma Smith Frank, Vicki Hess, Beckie (last name unk.), Mary (last name unk.), Beverly Goding, Eileen Dahmen, and John Robert Corey, as listed below.
Cousin Tom Young contacted me in Jun 2007 and has contributed more material, also listed below. His own excellent page is online at: http://www.tomyoung.us/html/ancestors.html.
Cousin Barbara Emerson Sharp checked in in June 2009, joining Jackie Sue Young as a descendant of 22.00--Conrad Young. Her contributions are found in the gold box below as expanded by my additions of pertinent census data. Click here for an interesting relationship chart for Barbara and Jackie Sue Young!
In addition, I own and have read and highly recommend to all a very readable, most enjoyable, and very well documented 94-page book, John Young: Lieutenant at Elk by Orton Jones, Mountain State Press, Charleston, WV, 1994 (ISBN: 0-941092-31-3).
Some of the entries in red below are to indicate the above-named contributors.
In early 2009, I decided to add twenty to the numbers of the generations. For example, my own generation, number 8, became 28. I hope that in so doing I have allowed for the future expansion of the genealogy and not confused the readers.
21.00--Methias/Mathias
Young, b. 1711 in Palatiante, Germany; d. 19 Jul 1749 in
Lancaster, PA; m. Anna
Margaretta Fey (b. 11 Jan 1712 in Germany; [Tom
Young says she is the d/o Conrad Fey {b. 1686
in Germany; d. unk.; m. unk.}]; d. 14 May 1784); [Tom
Young concurs with Mae Van Dinter (below) that these are Conrad
Mathue Young's parents];
From: "Mae Van Dinter" k e n n e d y t m at m s n dot c o m
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004
To: John M. Gwin <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: The Jung Family of Elk River WV
Conrad Jung was born in Pennsylvania to newly arrived Mathias Jung and his wife Anna Margaretta Fey 1732. Mathias was one of the founding fathers of Lancaster PA, and he died young at the age of 38 in the year 1749. Conrad was the oldest of several children and he was married to Anna Margaretta Franciscus in the year 1755. They had one son named John, later to be known as Capt John Young of Elk River near Charleston WV. Conrad's wife Anna Margaretta was struck and killed by lightning when John was 4. Conrad left Pennsylvania for the Shenandoah Valley with his son. Conrad married again and that wife was drowned in either the flooded Shenandoah or Potomac River. They had 4 children in addition to John. The family then went to Nicholas Co., VA, and Conrad married again to Elizabeth Wood. They had 2 sons William, b. 1785 and my own ancestor, George E. Young, b. 1788. William married May Lilly and George married Eudoshia Huddleston of Quaker background. Two books of these families are John Young, Lieutenant at Elk and every Roane (Rhone Germany yes?) Co. book you can find. The towns to visit are Clendenin, WV, and Elkview, WV, and each have very good family history centers. The websites cannot keep up with all the histories you'll find by searching elsewhere. William Young's death is documented in WV that he died on Elk Two Mile, and his parents were Conrad and Elizabeth Young. He was the last of their children to die and died in Kanawha Co., WV. His brother, George, died about 1857. This was Indian Country and some were Indian fighters, especially, Conrad and his two oldest sons, John and Charles. A fascinating history. Many old gravesites are along the Elk River through Kanawha and Roane Counties. The Moravian church at Lancaster, PA, has some history on Conrad and his family from Germany in the early 1700's.
From: Brett Young
byoung7411atyahoodotcom
Date: March 2, 2012 To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com Subject: From Brett Young re: Genealogy Hi, I hope this E-mail address is still working for you. I'm writing only to give you an alternative on Conrad Young and his wives. First of all, I'm a descendant of Conrad Young. From me, through my father and up to them it went like this: Brett Alan Young, Donly S. Young Jr., Donly S. Young, Philip Sheridan Young, Samuel Early Young, Jacob Young, John Young, Conrad Young, Matheus Jung. If you're still working on this genealogy, here's an alternative for you. Conrad Young had three wives. The first was Anna Margaret Franciscus. They had two sons prior to John Young. Both died at birth. One was named Johannes Jung and the the other Johan Jung. Then they had John Young in August 1760. John was actually named Johannes. In July of 1764 Anna was rocking John when lightening came down the chimney and killed Anna, but leaving John alone. Conrad's second wife was Margaret Hayes. She died crossing a river. The story I found, said that Conrad was riding his horse with a baby in his arms when Margaret fell from her horse into the river. Conrad rode back to the river bank, put the baby down and went to try to save his wife, but she had already died. I believe (but have no documentation) that the baby was Mathias Young. The baby was the son of Conrad and Margaret Hayes. The third wife was Elizabeth Woods. Their first child was Elizabeth Young who later married Thomas Smythe in Botetourt Co. It's hard to pin down her birthdate because the calendar was changed when she was born but I believe it to be 1770 or 1772. There was a man that I met named Henry Young. He'd done a lot of research over the years. He lived in Clendenin, WV. He had Margaret and Anna Margaretta switched as Conrad's wives. He was a treasure trough of information for me back in the early 90's. Unfortunately, he died a few years after we met and I could no longer pick his brain about the family. My dad got in touch with the Moravian Church in Pennsylvania and that's where we got a tremendous amount of information, including the information above. I cannot state that my information is more accurate than yours, but wanted to open up another scenario for you based on my, my dad's and the Moravian Church's research. Thank you for your time and I hope that some of this opens another door of possibilities for you. Brett A. Young |
23.02--John
Young, [reported here as "Capt.";
however, Norma Smith-Frank reports that Young's own 6-page testimony in
the National Archives states that he was enlisted, not an officer,
having been field-promoted to Lieutenant one time, temporarily], b. Aug
1758 to Conrad and Anna; d. 16
May 1850; m. 20 May 1789 to Mary Keziah Tackett Townsend
(b. unk.; d/o Lewis and Mary Tackett; d. unk.; bd.
unk.; m1. to Mr. Townsend; widowed); at least 2 ch.
[John
Gwin Note: I
own and have read and highly recommend to all a most enjoyable and very
well documented 94-page book, John Young: Lieutenant
at Elk by Orton Jones, Mountain State Press, Charleston, WV,
1994 (ISBN: 0-941092-31-3). Jones concludes his preface:
24.00--Mary
"Polly" Young m. Richard "Dick" Ashley
25.00--Nancy Ashley m. James Greathouse 26.00--Laura Caroline
Greathouse (the widow McIntire) m2. Joseph Nicholson
27.00--Virginia Daneal Nicholson m. Thomas Jefferson Kearns 28.00--Laura Virginia Kearns m. Charles Ernest Roach 29.00--Mary Virginia Roach
m. Norman Smith
30.00--Norma
Smith; m. Mr. Frank
|
[John M. Gwin Note: These two dual cousins (third cousins and half-fifth cousins, as the chart below shows--i.e., if I have recorded all this data correctly) Jackie Sue Young and Barbara Emerson Sharp have sent in their respective lines. Barbara's is second below in the gold box; Jackie's is third below in the pink, both descending from 22.00--Conrad Young through John Bird Young and Margaret Young. Thank you for sharing with us, Cousins!] |
| John
Bird Young's Line |
Relationship |
Margaret
Young's Line |
| 22.00--Conrad Mathew Young m1. Anna Margreta Francescas |
Parents |
22.00--Conrad
Mathew Young m2. Margaret Hayes |
| 23.05--Charles Francis Young m. Sarah Morris | Half-siblings |
23.02--John Young m. Mary Keziah Tackett Townsend |
| 24.01--John Bird Young m. 24.00--Margaret Young | Parents and Half-first
cousins |
24.00--Margaret Young m. 24.01--John Bird Young |
| 25.00--children
of John and Margaret |
Siblings and Half-second cousins | 25.00--children of John and Margaret |
| 26.00--grandchildren of John and Margaret | First cousins and Half-third cousins | 26.00--grandchildren of John and Margaret |
| 27.00--g-grandchildren of John and Margaret | Second cousins and Half-fourth cousins | 27.00--g-grandchildren of John and Margaret |
| 28.00--gg-grandchildren
of John and Margaret (e.g., Jackie Sue Young) |
Third cousins and Half-fifth cousins | 28.00--gg-grandchildren of John and Margaret (e.g., Barbara Emerson Sharp) |
| 29.00--ggg-grandchildren of John and Margaret | Fourth cousins and Half-sixth cousins | 29.00--ggg-grandchildren of John and Margaret |
| 30.00--gggg-grandchildren of John and Margaret | Fifth cousins and Half-seventh cousins | 30.00--gggg-grandchildren of John and Margaret |
24.00--Margaret Young, b. ca. 1795-96; d. unk., but aft. 1860 census and prob. bef. 1870 census; bd. unk.; m. John Bird Young (b. ca. 1797-98; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 5 ch.
[listed as Margaret, age 54, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA];
[listed as Margaret, age 65, in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA]
[listed as John B., age 53, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA];
[listed as John B., age 62, in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA]
25.01--Lucinda Young, b. ca. 1818 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 17 Oct 1836 in Kanawha Co., VA, to Archibald Price (b. ca. 1815 in VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
25.02--Harriet Young, b. Nov 1819 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 23 Aug 1839 in Kanawha Co., VA, to Samuel Matheny (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 2 ch.
26.01--William Matheny, b. ca. 1841; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as William Matheny, age 9, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA, living in the home of his grandparents, John B. and Margaret Young];
[listed as William, age 17, in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA, living in the home of his grandparents, John B. and Margaret Young]
26.02--Sarah A. Matheny, b. ca. 1843; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as Sarah A. Matheny, age 7, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA, living in the home of his grandparents, John B. and Margaret Young]
[not listed in the home of her grandparents in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA, and assumed deceased or married and living elsewhere]25.03--James Stroters Young, b. Aug 1822 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. 1867; bd. unk.; m. 8 Oct 1850 in Kanawha Co., VA., to Mary Elizabeth Griffith (b. 17 Nov 1831; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
[listed as James S., age 27, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA]
[not listed as living at home in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA, and assumed living elsewhere]
25.04--John Jacob "John Jake" Armstrong Young, b. Jul 1825 in VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 17 Oct 1850 in Kanawha Co., VA, to Julia Mary "Mae" Geary (b. 1831 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
[listed as Jacob A, age 24, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA]
[not listed as living at home in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA, and assumed living elsewhere]
25.05--Harvey Humphrey Young, b. ca. 1834 in Mill Creek, Kanawha Co., VA; d. 1917 in Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. 29 Dec 1869 in Kanawha Co., WV, to Ann/Nancy 'Annie' Eliza Ferrell (b. 4 Apr 1854 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. bet. 1887-1910 in Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.); at least 8 ch.
[listed as Harvy, age 16, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA];
[listed as Harvey, age 26, in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA]
26.01--Staunton William Young, b. 5 Dec 1871 in Elk Twp., Kanawha Co., WV; d. 11 Feb 1942 in McMillan Hospital, Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV, (per Cert. of Death #1693 signed by Dr. McClure); m. 2 Aug 1896 in Kanawha Co., WV, by H. C. Howard [according to Kanawha Co. Marriage Record per Charlotte Thurston] to Lillie/Lilly Belle Copen (b. Oct 1875 in Malden Dist., Kanawha Co., WV; d. 4 Oct 1926 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV [recorded in the Kanawha Co. Register of Deaths, Bk. 2, p. 3, per Charlotte Thurston]; bd. unk.); at least 10 ch.
27.01--Ruby Jewel Young, b. 11 Sep 1914 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV, delivered by Dr. McClure; d. 16 Apr 1979, Fairfax Co., VA; bd. unk.; m. 1 Oct 1932 in Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV, by Rev. Earl G. Hissom, Kanawha Co. Book 11/169 [per Charlotte Thurston] to Ernest Orlando Emerson (b. 11 Sep 1911 in Alexandria, VA; d. 28 Aug 1997 in Burke, Fairfax Co., VA; bd. unk.) at least three ch.
28.01--Living Emerson [PRIVATE]
28.02--Living Emerson [PRIVATE]
28.03--Living Emerson [PRIVATE]
27.02--Wesley Harvey Young, b. 9 Jan 1897 in Villa, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 18 Nov 1979 in Melbourne, FL; m. Jul 1917 to Mary Leftwich (b. 18 Mar 1897 in WV; d. 2 Aug 1949 in Coal Fork, Kanawha Co., WV; 6 ch.
28.01--Walter Ross Young, b. 19 May 1918 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 19 Oct 1996 in Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
28.02--Ralph Young, b. 13 Nov 1919 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 7 Oct 1920 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; m. unk.; unk. ch.
28.03--Janice Young, b. 23 Mar 1921; d. 11 Mar 2001 in FL; m. 27 Nov 1943 to Clifford Kauff (b. 11 Mar 1910; d. 8 Jul 1999; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
28.04--Eva Young, b. 16 Jun 1923 in WV; d. 18 Mar 2002 in FL; m. 26 Jul 1947 to Ernest C. Dean (b. 10 Mar 1921; d. May 1996 in FL; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
28.05--Marian Ann Young, b. 5 May 1926 in Snow Hill, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 26 Sep 2006 in Red Bluff, CA; m. 13 Jun 1945 to Living Petersen (b. ca. 1923); unk. ch.
28.06--Living Young, 1 Jan 1931 in Coal Fork, Kanawha Co., WV; m. unk.; unk. ch.
27.03--William Cecil Young, b. 6 Nov 1900 in WV; d. 4 Sep 1964 in Kanawha Co., WV; b.d unk.; m. ca. 1922 to Alberta "Bertie" Hysell (b. 1901; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
28.01--Jane Elizabeth Young, b. 20 Jul 1923; d. 4 Dec 2003; bd. Keystone Hts. Cem., Keystone Heights, Clay Co., FL--Find A Grave Memorial# 29762106; m. William Costello (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
28.02--Norma Lee Young, b. 1927 in Kanawha Co., WV; d. 17 Sep 2005 in Takoma Park, Montgomery Co., MD; bd. unk.; m. Louis Joseph deSabla, Sr. (b. 4 Jan 1922; d. 18 Apr 2000; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
27.04--Mary Belle Young, b. 14 Sep 1902 in Eagle, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 7 May 1980 in Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. 15 Nov 1920 to Charles Edward Blankenship (b. 27 May 1901; d. 31 Jul 1970 in Cheshire, Meigs Co., OH; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
27.05--Wollie Young, twin, b. 23 Nov 1904 in Montgomery, WV; d. 29 Apr 1984 in Youngstown, Mahoning Co., OH; bd. unk.; m. 16 May 1928 to Rhoda Irene Norvell (b. 16 Aug 1904 in WV; d. 7 Nov 1989 in Youngstown, Mahoning Co., OH; bd. unk.); at least 6 ch.
28.01--Lillie Young, b. 28 Jan 1928 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m1. to Lucky Silman (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.; m2. to Walter Ray Dudley (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
28.02--Roy Andrew Young, b. 16 Aug 1929 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; d. Mar 2003 in Seattle, WA; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
28.03--Billie Jean Young, b. 6 Jan 1932 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 2005; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
28.04--Living Young [PRIVATE]
28.05-Living Young [PRIVATE]
28.06--Living Young [PRIVATE]
27.06--Wallace Young, twin, b. 23 Nov 1904 in Montgomery, WV; d. 14 May 1906; bd. unk.; m. never; no ch.
27.07--Staunton Calvert Young, b. 19 Oct 1906 in WV; d. 2 Jan 1984 in Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
27.08--Hayes/Hayse Young, b. 11 Nov 1909; d. 11 Mar 1975 in Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
27.09--Orville/Orvel Young, b. 6 Mar 1911; d. 11 Oct 1913; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
27.10--James Young, b. 31 Jan 1917 in Kanawha Co., WV; d. Oct 1986 in Charleston or Malden, Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. Vada Norvell (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
26.02--Cora A. Young, b. 7 Aug 1873 in WV; d. aft. 1944 in WV; bd. unk. m. ca. 1896 to Walter J. Walton (b. 9 Mar 1874; d. 31 Dec 1936 in WV; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
26.03--Hoy O. Young, son, b. 20 Jul 1877; d. Feb 1971 in Scott Depot, Putnam Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. Florence Allman (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
[listed as Hoy Young, 62, b. WV, coal mines foreman, in the 15 Apr 1940 census of Cabin Creek Dist., Kanawha Co., WV, and lvg. w/his brother Coy]
27.01--William Young, b. ca. 1900; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
26.04--Esther Young, b. ca. 1878 in Kanawha Co., WV; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. William (Bill) Countz (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
26.05--Coy A. Young, son, b. ca. 1881 in WV [date is based on the censuses of 1900, 1910, 1920]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[listed as Coy Young, 54, b. WV, in the 15 Apr 1940 census of Cabin Creek Dist., Kanawha Co., WV, and lvg. w/his bro. Hoy]
26.06--Harvey Hudson Hamilton Young, b. 18 Feb 1883 in WV; d. Oct 1975 in Kanawha Co., WV; bd. Ward Cem., Cedar Grove, Kanawha Co., WV--Find A Grave Memorial# 15164558; m. Olive Mae Buckley (b. 1892 in WV; d. 1960 in Handley, WV; bd. unk.); at least two ch.
27.01--Nancy Jane Young, b. 15 Jan 1912 in WV; d. 1 May 1923 in Ripley, Jackson Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
27.02--Harvey Samuel Young, b. 24 May 1913 in WV; d. 9 Jun 1930 in Cabin Creek Dist., Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
26.07--James Corbett Young, b. 20 Feb 1886; d. 22 Jun 1951; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
26.08--Chilton 'Harvey' Young, b. 13 May 1887 in Kanawha Co., WVd. 3 Apr 1974 in Indian River Co., FL; bd. unk.; m. Lucy Skiles (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
25.06--Sarah Ann Young, b. ca. 1830-32 in VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 21 Nov 1858 in Kanawha Co., VA, to Franklin Baxter (b. 1827 in Cooper's Creek, Kanawha Co., VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
[listed as Sarah A, age 18, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA];
[not listed as living at home in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA, and assumed living elsewhere]
25.07--Nancy Young, b. ca. 1834 (1829?) in VA; d. 18 Aug 1923; bd. unk.; m. 1868 to William Ranson (b. ca. 1828; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
[listed as Nancy, age 16, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA];
[listed as Nancy, age 23, in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA]
23.04--another daughter, b. to Conrad and Margret; d. ; m.
| 23.05--Charles Francis Young, b. to Conrad and Margret; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 29 Mar 1773 to Sarah Morris (b. ; d. 1842; d/o Henry Morris); 9 children this is John Gwin's line |
25.03--Lucinda Young m. Archie Price
25.04--Harriet Young m. Sam Mathaney
25.05--Nancy W. Young, b. 1829; d. 18 Aug 1923; m. 1868 to William Ranson
25.06--Harvey H. Young, b. 1831; d. 1917, bd. Skiles Cem., Walnut Gap; m. Nancy Ann Ferrel; 8 children;
26.01--Chilton Young, b. ; d. 3 Apr 1974; m. Lucy Skiles
26.02--Hoy Young; m. Florence Allman
26.03--Staunton Young; m. Lilly Copen
26.04--Harvey Hudson Hamilton Young, b. 18 Feb 1883; d. 1975; bd. Ward Cem., Cedar Grove, Kanawha Co., WV--Find A Grave Memorial# 15164558; m. Olive Mae/May Buckley (b. 1892; d. 1960, Handley, WV; bd. Ward Cem., Cedar Grove, Kanawha Co., WV--Find A Grave Memorial# 15164571); 19! ch.
Name: 1920 U.S. Fed. Census
about Harvey Young
Home in 1920: Cabin Creek, Kanawha, WV Age: 36 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Birthplace: West Virginia Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Olive Father's Birth Place: West Virginia Mother's Birth Place: West Virginia Household Members:
Name Age Harvey Young 36 Olive Young 27 Cara Young 10 Nanna Young 8 Harvey Young 6 Mira Young 4 Jasper Young 2 Ruth Young 1
Name 1930 U.S. Fed. Census
about Harvey H. Young
Home in 1930: Cabin Creek, Kanawha, WV Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Birthplace: West Virginia Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Olive M Household Members:
Name Age Harvey H Young 47 Olive M Young 37 Nancy J Young 18 Harvey S Young 16 Maury W Young 15 Jasper H Young 12 Ruth A Young 11 Clarance A Young 9 Doras L Young 6 Oliver M Young 4 Lola J Young 2 Hay M Young 1
[John M. Gwin Note: The nineteen reported children of Harvey H. H. and Olive Mae (Buckley) Young have come to us in three separate reports: one from the research of Cousin Bob Sigmon, one from the memory of Jackie Sue Young, and one from the 1920 and 1930 census documents (summarized above). The following chart is an attempt to list the three side by side to get a clearer picture of this family.]
| Gwin
Transcription of Bob Sigmon's Record |
Gwin
Transcription of Jackie Sue Young's Record |
Deborah
Rogers-Roderick's Account |
Census
Records |
John
M. Gwin's Comments |
||
27.01--Cora Young; m. Rev. Simon L. Jones; 1 ch. 28.01--Marvin Lee Jones, b.
28.02--Ralph Dale
Jones, b.
28.03--Janet Mae Jones, b. unk.; m. Mr. Robinson 28.04--Margaret Ann Jones, b.; m. Mr. Galt; 28.05--Richard Amon Jones, b. 28.06--Mary Elizabeth Jones, b.; m. Mr. Wheller 28.07--Eloise Sue Jones, m. Mr. Kight |
My Aunt Cora
Young Jones was the eldest of Harvey and Olive Mae's
children. She was married to Simon Jones. Their children
were: Marvin Lee; Ralph; Janette; Samona; Francis; Mary; Shirlely; Sue; Richard. I may have left someone out, but some of us knew each other as children and some of the others were older than I. 27.01--Cora Young; m. Simon Jones; 28.01--Marvin Lee Jones, b.
28.02--Ralph Jones, b. 28.03--Janette Jones, b. 28.04--Samona Jones, b. 28.05--Francis Jones, b. 28.06--Mary Jones, b. 28.07--Shirley Jones, b. 28.08--Sue Jones, b. 28.09--Richard Jones, b. |
OK, in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Cabin Creek Dist.,
Kanawha Co., WV, (see summary
above) the family members are listed as follows: Harvey.....................36....head Olive........................27....wife Cara........10....(Cora,
firstborn.)
In the 14 Apr 1930 census of this same district, they appear
like this:Nanna......8...(This is Nancy, 2nd-born) Harvey.....6...(Harvey, 3rd-born) Mira..........4...(Maury, 4th-born) Jasper......2...(Jasper, 5th-born) Ruth.........1...(Ruth, 6th-born) Harvey H..............47... Olive M................37... Nancy J.........18...#2
Harvey S.......16...#3
Maury W......15...#4
Jasper H.......12...#5
Ruth A...........11...#6 Clarance A.....9...#7
Doras L...........6...#8
Oliver M.........4...#9 Lola J..............2...#10 Hoy M.............1...#11 |
It
is very clear that all these records are talking of the same family. As
we compare Bob's and Jackie's accounts side by side, each gives
clarification of the ambiguities of the other. For example, Bob Sigmond does not reveal the last names of the children, leaving it to the reader to figure out from the parents' last names, etc. I had thus assumed that
Ralph Dale's last name was Lanham, him being the second child of Sandra
Kay and Franklin Lanham. But seeing Jackie Sue Young's list of the
children of Cora and Simon Jones beside Bob's list suddenly made me
realize that Ralph, Janey, Margaret, Richard, Mary, and Eloise were
Joneses, not Lanhams, and belonged in generation 28, not 30!
Ralph and Ralph must be the same person, and Bob's list tells us his middle name, Dale. Janet Mae and Janette must be the same person. Richard Amon and Richard must be the same person. Eloise Sue and Sue must be the same person. And Mary Elizabeth and Mary must be the same. That leaves us with Bob's Margaret Ann and Jackie's Samona and Francis unaccounted for. Perhaps looking for this family in the census records will throw additional light onto the mystery. From Bob's and Jackie's reports, we had no idea as to the correct birth order of generation 27 with the exceptions of Cora and Zada who are first and last, respectively. So we looked up the Harvey H. Young family in the census records for 1920 and 1930 and got a fairly decent picture of the birth order through son Hoy, the eleventh born. But for the 12th-born through the 18th-born children, there is no clue so far; therefore, I have arbitrarily assigned each of the remaining seven children to one of those as shown below. |
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27.02--Nancy Young, b. ca. 1912; m. Rev. Romie Canterberry; 7 children 28.01--Doris
Virginia Canterberry; m. Mr. Hunter
28.02--Joyce
Canterberry;
m. Mr. Cole
28.03--Connie Canterberry; m. Mr. Pauley 28.04--Frankie Canterberry 28.05--Romie Canterberry 28.06--Frederick Canterberry 28.07--Olive Canterberry; m. Mr. Whirkle |
Nancy
Young Canterberry - I did not know all of her family as well as
some. Nancy was married to Roamy Canterberry. 27.02--Nancy Young, b. ca. 1912; d. unk.; m. Roamy Canterberry; |
1920: Nanna......8...(Nancy,
2nd-born) 1930: Nancy J...18...#2 |
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27.03--Harvey Samuel Young |
Uncle Harvey Young
- was killed in a slate fall in the mines when he was 17. 27.03--Harvey Young, b. unk.; d. unk. but was killed in a slate fall in the mines when he was 17; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. |
1920: Harvey........6...(Harvey,
3rd-born) 1930...Harvey S..16...#3 |
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27.04--Maury Wilson Young |
27.04--Maury Young, b. unk.; d. unk.; m. Reba (nee unk.); |
1920: Mira..............4...(Maury,
4th-born) 1930: Maury W. 15...#4 |
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| My name is Jackie Sue Young. I am the
granddaughter of Harvey H. Young
and Olive Mae Young. My
father was Jasper Harrison Young,
born 9/11/1917. My mother was Alvalyon
Delores (Tucker) Young, born 05/15/1923. My mother died in
1982, my father died two years ago. I grew up with a lot of
cousins. Many cousins I have never met. My siblings: Alvalyon Lorain
Mae (Sally) Young Greathouse; married to Kenneth Greathouse; children
Norville Eric Greathouse and Todd Stephen Greathouse.
Carol Ann Young Saunders Talbert; married to Jack Talbert; children
Sheila Delene Saunders Stevens; Angela Nicole Saunders; (Twin brother
to Angela - Darrin Jeffrey Saunders died at age 13); Nichole Beth
Saunders Canterberry. Roger Neal Young -
married to Mary Young; children; Sarah Elizabeth; Andrew and Beau. 27.05--Jasper Harrison Young, b. 11 Sep 1917; d. ca. 2007; bd. unk.; m. Alvalyon Delores Tucker (b. 15 May 1923; d. 1982; bd. unk.); 4 ch. 28.01--Jackie Sue Young, [PRIVATE]
28.02--Alvalyon Lorain Mae (Sally) Young; m. Kenneth Greathouse; 2 ch., [PRIVATE] 29.01--Norville Eric Greathouse, [PRIVATE] 29.02--Todd Stephen Greathouse, [PRIVATE] 28.03--Carol Ann Young ; m1. Mr. Saunders ; m2. Jack Talbert; ch., [PRIVATE]
29.01--Sheila Delene Saunders; m. Mr. Stevens; [PRIVATE] 29.02--Angela Nicole Saunders, (twin), b. unk.; d. unk.; [PRIVATE] 29.03--Darrin Jeffrey Saunders, (twin), b. unk.; d. age 13; [PRIVATE] 29.04--Nichole Beth Saunders; m. Mr. Canterberry; [PRIVATE] 28.04--Roger Neal Young; m. Mary (nee unk.); ch.; [PRIVATE]
29.01--Sarah Elizabeth Young; [PRIVATE]
29.02--Andrew Young; [PRIVATE] 29.03--Beau Young; [PRIVATE] |
1920: Jasper.......2...(Jasper
, 5th-born) 1930: Jasper H.......12...#5 |
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| 27.06--Ruth Young; m. Mr. Talbert; | Aunt Peggy Young
Talbert married to Okle Talbert; children: Twins - Tommy and
Judy; Larry, Jennings; Glenn; Gary; Jack Douglas; Harvey; Twins - Ruth
Ann and Ray. Again, I may have left some out but these are the
cousins that I knew growing up. 27.07--Peggy Young; m. Okle (Okie?) Talbert; ch.: 28.01--Tommy Talbert (twin), b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. 28.02--Judy Talbert (twin), b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. 28.03--Larry Talbert, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. 28.04--Jennings Talbert, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. 28.05--Glenn Talbert, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. 28.06--Gary Talbert, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. 28.07--Jack Douglas Talbert, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. 28.08--Harvey Talbert, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. 28.09--Ruth Ann Talbert (twin), b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. 28.10--Ray Talbert (twin), b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. |
1920: Ruth.............1...(Ruth,
6th-born) 1930: Ruth A......11...#6 |
See
my
note
for
27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. |
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27.07--Clarence Armain Young; |
1930: Clarance A.....9...#7 | See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. | ||||
27.08--Doris L. Young; m. Mr. Westfall; |
Aunt Doris Westfall 27.08--Doris L. Young; m. Mr. Westfall; |
1930: Doras L...........6...#8 | See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. | |||
27.09--Oliver Milton Young; m. Dora Janet Craigo 28.00--Olive
Selma Young; m. Mr. Basham
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Uncle Melton Young 27.09--Melton Young |
1930: Oliver M.........4...#9 | See
my
note
for
27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.
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27.10--Lola J. Young 1930: Lola J..............2...#10 |
This
daughter is unnamed in both Bob's and Jackie's lists. But she does
appear in the 1930 census, so this leaves two possibilities: (1)
perhaps she died early, or (2) perhaps this is our June, currently
listed as the 14th born. We should know more when the 1940 census is
opened in 2010. See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. |
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27.11--Hoy Marlin Young; |
Uncle Hoy Young 27.13--Hoy Young |
1930: Hoy M.............1...#11 | See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. | |||
27.12--Constance Rebecca Young; 28.03--Carol Ann Young; m. Mr. Saunders
28.04--Roger Keith Young |
See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. | |||||
27.13--Mildred Aretta Young; |
See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. | |||||
27.14--June Young m. Mr. Hall; |
Aunt June Young
Hall - married to Lawrence Hall. They had several children,
though I cannot think of them now. David Young is the son of June
Young Hall. 27.14--June Young, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Lawrence Hall; several ch. 28.01--David Young Hall
|
See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. | ||||
27.15--Jenning Howatt Young; |
Uncle
Jennings Young - died as a young child. 27.15--Jennings Young, b. unk.; d. as a young child; bd. unk.; m. never; no ch. |
See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. | ||||
27.16--James Workman Young; |
Uncle Jimmy Young 27.16--Jimmy Young |
See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. | ||||
27.17--Patricia Young; m. Mr. Rogers |
Aunt Patricia Young
Rogers - children that I remember: Harvey, Tye 27.17--Patricia Young; m. Mr. Rogers 28.01--Harvey
Rogers
28.02--Tye Rogers |
Hi John...happened upon
this site and was impressed with all your research. However, Jackie
Young was so wrong in giving family history for my grandparents, Harvey and Olive Young. My mother is
still alive, and she knows her sisters and brothers. She knows their
children..my cousins. So, contact me if you would like a true account
of the children, and grandchildren. Other than Uncle Jack (Jasper), we
are a close family, and Lola is Aunt June. So you can contact me via
email or telephone. My mom is Patricia Young Rogers. In God's love, Deborah Rogers-Roderick |
See
my
note
for
27.01 Cora Young, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. Here's a post from Ancestry.com on this family: we are family
hello i just wanted
to learn more about our family. my mother is the daughter of H.H.H.
Young and Olive Mae Buckley. i am not sure of the order she is maybe
between the 10th to 19th child. i you have any information that will
fill in the holes that i need please contact me. my mother's name is Patricia Gail Young Rogers. thank you
Darlene
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27.18--Clarabell Young; m. Mr. Greathouse; |
Aunt Clara Belle
Young Greathouse - married to William Greathouse; sons Randy and Billy. 27.18--Clara Belle Young; m. William Greathouse; 2 ch. 28.01--Randy
Greathouse
28.01--Billy Greathouse |
See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. | ||||
27.19--Ioda Young m. Mr. Fernett; |
Aunt Zada Fernatt -
married to Junior Fernatt. Zada was the youngest of Harvey and
Olive Mae's children. I'm sorry to say that I don't know the
names of her children. 27.19--Zada Young; m. Junior Fernatt. Zada was the youngest of Harvey and Olive Mae's children. I'm sorry to say that I don't know the names of her children. |
See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order. |
[JMGwin NOTE: In March 2009, Cousin Jackie Sue Young emailed me with even more data that has helped unravel--at least in my mind--all of this heretofore semi-confusing information on the now-understood-to-be NINETEEN children of Harvey and Olive Mae Young. Using Jackie's data, I have reorganized Bob Sigmon's report on this family and arranged it as I now believe he intended it to be understood. With the exceptions of Jackie's notes that Cora Young Jones was the oldest and Zada Young Fernatt was the youngest of the 19, the birth order was still unclear, however, until I found this family in both the 1920 and 1930 censuses, which gave us the birth order through the eleventh-born child. I arbitrarily selected the birth order numbers for the 12th through 18th children only for the temporary purpose of facility in reference. I have attempted to put Jackie's somewhat extensive (and most welcome!) information into my outline format in the chart above. Her good email follows.]
From: Jackie Young
Date: March 5, 2009
To: <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Young family
My name is Jackie Sue Young. I am the granddaughter of Harvey H. Young and Olive Mae Young. My father was Jasper Harrison Young, born 9/11/1917. My mother was Alvalyon Delores (Tucker) Young, born 05/15/1923. My mother died in 1982, my father died two years ago. I grew up with a lot of cousins. Many cousins I have never met.
My siblings:
Alvalyon Lorain Mae (Sally) Young Greathouse; married to Kenneth Greathouse; children Norville Eric Greathouse and Todd Stephen Greathouse.
Carol Ann Young Saunders Talbert - Married to Jack Talbert; children Sheila Delene Saunders Stevens; Angela Nicole Saunders; (Twin brother to Angela - Darrin Jeffrey Saunders died at age 13); Nichole Beth Saunders Canterberry.
Roger Neal Young - married to Mary Young; children; Sarah Elizabeth; Andrew and Beau.
My Aunt Cora Young Jones was the eldest of Harvey and Olive Mae's children. She was married to Simon Jones. Their children were:
Marvin Lee; Ralph; Janette; Samona; Francis; Mary; Shirlely; Sue; Richard. I may have left someone out, but some of us knew each other as children and some of the others were older than I.
Nancy Young Canterberry - I did not know all of her family as well as some. Nancy was married to Roamy Canterberry.
Aunt Peggy Young Talbert married to Okle Talbert; children: Twins - Tommy and Judy; Larry, Jennings; Glenn; Gary; Jack Douglas; Harvey; Twins - Ruth Ann and Ray. Again, I may have left some out but these are the cousins that I knew growing up.
Uncle Harvey Young - was killed in a slate fall in the mines when he was 17.
Uncle Jennings Young - died as a young child.
Aunt June Young Hall - married to Lawrence Hall. They had several children, though I cannot think of them now. David Young is the son of June Young Hall.
Aunt Patricia Young Rogers - children that I remember: Harvey, Tye
Aunt Zada Fernatt - married to Junior Fernatt. Zada was the youngest of Harvey and Olive Mae's children. I'm sorry to say that I don't know the names of her children.
Auant Clara Belle Young Greathouse - married to William Greathouse; sons Randy and Billy.
Uncle Hoy Young
Uncle Jimmy Young
Uncle Melton Young
Aunt Doris Westfall
Uncle Maury Young, married to Reba.
There were other children who died as children, but I don't know their names.
I just wanted to share some of my information with you. I hope it gives you some information that you don't have.
26.06--Coy Young (auto) [sic]
26.06--Cora A. Young; m. Walter Walton
26.07--James Corbett Young
26.08--Lester Young
25.07--Sarah Manda (Amanda?) Young; m. Frank Baxter24.02--James A. Young, b.; d.; m.
24.03--Sarah Young, b. 1804; d. 1890; m1. 1825 to William Burdette (b. 1801; d. 7 May 1862); m2. to Edmond Price
24.04--Benjamin Strader Young, b.; d.; m. Lucinda Hoffman25.01--Henrietta B. Young, b. 17 June 1850; m. 12 July 1867 to Sylvanus G. Chapman (b. 29 Feb 1854); 11 children; (and Frank Layman's granddaughter, Mary, <hjem@uti.com>, sends the following by way of addenda and correction to this line:
Silvanus G. CHAPMAN, b. 29 Feb 1844 in Putnam Co., WV; d. 1885; served in Civil War, CSA, Co. F, 30th Virginia Battalion; bd. in Chapman Cem., County Rd., East out of Linden on Flat Run Rd., Roane Co., WV; m. 10 Jul 1867 in Roane Co., WV, to Henrietta B. YOUNG (b. 17 Jun 1850 in Kanawha Co., VA, d/o Benjamin S. YOUNG and Lucinda V. HUFFMAN; d. 1925; also bd. in Chapman Cem.);
26.02--Martha J. Young Chapman, b. 1869; d. ; m. W. Mac Samples; unk. children; Martha J. CHAPMAN b. 12 Jun 1869 in Roane Co; m. 1 Jan 1893 in Roane Co., WV to William M. SAMPLES (b. 30 May 1866 in Kanawha Co., WV, s/o Robert SAMPLES and Mary Catherine PAULEY); 3 known children:
28.02--Frank Layman, b. 1916 (my--i.e., Mary's--grandfather)
30.01--Mary, CONTRIBUTOR [PRIVATE]
27.03--Mina May Samples b. 15 Jan 1898 in Linden, Roane Co., WV;
26.05--Carry Bell Young Chapman, b. 1874; d. ; m. Samuel Sarver; _ children; Carrie B. CHAPMAN b. 25 Mar 1874;
26.06--William S. Young Chapman b. 1875; d. ; m. Rhoda Wright; _ children; William S. CHAPMAN b. 28 Feb 1875 in Roane Co., WV;
26.07--Lucy D. Young Chapman b. 1876; d. ; m. William Rishel; _ children; Lucy D. CHAPMAN b. 30 Sep 1876 in Roane Co., WV;
26.08--Lotta V. Young Chapman, b. 1878; d. ; m. George Sarver;_ children; Lottie V. CHAPMAN b. 21 Apr 1878;
26.09--Henry Nelson Young Chapman, b. 1879; d. ; m. Jennie Simmons;_ children; Henry Nelson CHAPMAN b. 29 Aug 1879;
26.10--John Gideon Chapman, b. 1881; d. ; m. Mary Simmons; _ children; John G. CHAPMAN b. 10 Jun 1881 in Walton Dist., Roane Co., WV;
26.11--Henrietta Dottie Young Chapman b. 29 Dec 1882; d. ; m. O. Hutchinson;_ children;
24.05--Charles W. Young, b. 8 Sep 1809; d.; m.13 Sep 1832 to Elizabeth Given (b. 21 Aug 1813)12 children;25.01--Margaret J. Young, b. 6 Aug 1833; d. 25 Mar 1866; m. to (b. ); children;24.06--Elizabeth "Betty" Young, b.; d.; m.
25.02--Elizabeth S. Young, b. 4 Dec 1835; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;
25.03--Matilda Young, b. 1 November 1837; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;
25.04--Samuel M. Young, b. 22 Dec 1839; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;
25.05--Archibald P. Young, b. 2 Jan 1842; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;
25.06--Marietta Young, b. 5 Feb 1844; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;
25.07--Harriet Ann Young, b. 25 Feb 1846; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;
25.08--Caroline Young, b. 9 Apr 1848; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;
25.09--Allen P. Young, b. 25 Apr 1850; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;
25.10--Emily F. Young, b. 6 Jul 1853; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;
25.11--Roxy S. Young, b. 28 Dec 1855; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;
25.12--Charles Edward Young, b. 30 Nov 1858; d. 25 Feb 1902, Mill Creek, age 43; bd. Buckner-Young Cem., Kanawha Co., WV--Find A Grave Memorial# 15408129; m. to (b. ); children;
24.07--Edine B. Young, b.; d.; m.
24.08--William Young, b.; d.; m.
24.09--Margret Young, b.; d.; m.
| 24.01--Charles Conrad Young, b. 2 Feb 1807 in VA (now WV); d. Feb 1905, on Line Creek, Nicholas Co.; bd. near Hawk's Nest, WV, in Nicholas Co.--click here for Conrad's photo page; m1. 28 Apr 1832 to Margaret D. James (b. 24 Jun 1814 in VA [now WV]; d. 10 Apr 1873; bd. unk.); m2. to America (nee unk., b. ca. 1847; d. unk.; bd. unk.; unk. ch.); 12 children . (A newly-discovered third cousin, Catherine, has e.mailed me with additional information.) this is John Gwin's line |
26.01--Burrell Meadows, b. 1866;
26.02--Nancy D. Meadows, b. 1868;
26.03--John L. Meadows, b. 1870;
26.04--Harvey U. Meadows, b. 1872;
26.05--Margaret Meadows, b. 1874;
26.06--Jeremiah Meadows, b. 1878;
From: bgodingatverizondotnet
Date: September 11, 2008
To: JMcDGwin@zianet.com
Subject: Corrections to tree
Hi, John Corey is visiting and we are looking at the family line -- ours is off on the bottom. It has my grandmother listed as a #6 when she is not a sister but a daughter of Joe Wood Jr. -- that throws off all the ones below.
26.01--Joseph Wood Jr., m: Lillian Mabel Turner 9 children
27.01--Orion Joseph Wood b 8-25-1897 d. 1-21-1914
27.02--Mabel Lillian Wood b 8-28-1902
27.03--Adrian Clellan Wood b. 2-14-1904
27.04--Vernon Wood b 3-16-1905
27.05--Mary Evelyn Wood b. 5-26-1906
27.06--Alice Besse Wood b 8-16-1912
27.07--Alta Jessie Wood b 8-16-1912
27.08--Ida Mae Wood b. 1-19-1915
27.09--Albert Leonard Wood b 5-5-1916
31.01--Natalia Rae Goding; [PRIVATE]
31.02--LaTara Ann Goding; [PRIVATE]
31.03--James Joel Goding; [PRIVATE]
31.04--Justin Wayne Goding [PRIVATE]
28.02--Joseph Glade Farenkamm; m. Phyliss Horn [PRIVATE]
27.08--Ida Mae Wood, b. 19 Jan 1915;
27.09--Albert Leonard Wood, b. 5 May 1916;28.01--Eileen Wood, m. Mr. Dahmen
Cousin John, George Stanley says ISAAC STANLEY is George Washington Stanley's father; he didn't know the grandmother or any more on that side; Charles Conrad Young is bd. at the bottom of the Hendrick Cem. next to Uncle George below Hawk's Nest, WV; he died in 1905 at age 98; Margaret James, his wife, is supposedly bd. in Oak Hill since her family didn't approve of Conrad; I haven't located her grave; keep in touch! John Robert
--And since
then, we sure enough have determined that not only was Isaac his
father, but Harris, Pleasant, Thomas, and Thomas were the next four
ancestors up the line! Click his STANLEY link to see what we've
learned about this family so far.]
26.02--Harry Stanley,
b. Sep 1872 ; d. 20
Jun 1923 in a mining accident in Fayette Co., WV (fr. WV death index); m. Martelia (nee unk.);
at least 7 ch.
27.03--Ted
Grafton, b. ; d. of strepthroat after swimming the
Kanawha at mouth of Elk R.; m. never;
27.04--Dolly Grafton [PRIVATE]; m. Guy Corey (b. 2 Sep 1914; d. 2005?); lives in Charleston, WV; 3 ch.
l-r: John, Don and Bonnie Sue, Dolly, Mrs. Rick, Rick, in 2009
Hi, I am writing
to correct the information that John Corey gave you for the descendants
of Mabel Stanley. My father, Thomas A. Grafton, III,
was her son. He passed away on April 24, 2004. I am his daughter. All
of my brothers and sisters are alive. They are [listed above], in order
of oldest to youngest. Don't know if there is any other
information you need regarding our branch of the family, but this will
make your existing records correct. If you need anything else, like
middle names, or marriages, let me know. I found your information very
interesting. Take care, Merry
Jo
27.07--Grafton;
26.04--Mamie Chloe Stanley ("Maw-maw"), b. 8 Sept 1879 (Everyone thought she was born in 1882; indeed, even her tombstone records the error based on her own testimony; however, the census of June/July 1880 records her age as 9 mos!) in Nicholas Co., WV; d. 30 Oct 1957 at Witcher; bd. at the Keeney plots in Witcher's Creek Cem.; m. 11 Nov 1911 to McDonald Keeney (b. 28 July 1877; d. 16 May 1938 at Witcher, WV; bd. at the Keeney plots in Witcher's Creek Cem); 7 children; 22 grandchildren--[I, John Gwin, am one of these 22, and as almost none of us ever knew our "Granddaddy Mack", we grew up with his adopted brother-in-law, our (grand-) "Uncle George" (next), who made a fine "surrogate Grandpa" to almost all of us.]
27.01--Maxine Stanley Keeney27.02--Hannah Margaret Keeney27.03--Dorothy Lee "Dot" Keeney
27.04--Mildred Agnes "Milly" Keeney
27.07--George McClure Keeney
26.00--James Luther Young,
[PRIVATE]
27.00--Donna's parent,
[PRIVATE]
28.00--Donna Prosser, CONTRIBUTOR [PRIVATE]
Saturday
10/06/2007
Name: Donna Prosser E-Mail: d2_prosserAthotmailDotcom Location: East Hampton, CT Comments: My great-grandfather was Charles Young, my great-great-grandfather was Charles Conrad Young. My grandfather was James Luther Young. |
Name: John F Young Home
1900:Falling Spring,
Greenbrier, WVAge: 37 DOB: Dec 1862 POB: West Virginia Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Male Relat
2HoH:Head FPOB: West Virginia MPOB: West Virginia Spouse: Isibel DOM: 1889 MarrStat: Married YrsMd: 11 Res.: Falling Spg. Dist.
(Pcts 3-4),
Greenbrier, WVHousehold
Members:
Name Age John F Young 37 Isibel Young 27 Charles H Young 8 Mary J Young 7 Lewis J Young 5 William J Young 4 Rohada B Young 2 Levi J Young 8/12
Names in 1880
Age William Young 31 Louisa Young 27 Daniel Young 7 Charles Young 5 Martha Young 2 Farris Young 1
Name: John H Young
[John F Young]age: 47 Est DOB: abt 1863 POB: West Virginia Relat
2HoH:Head FPOB: West Virginia MPOB: West Virginia Spouse: Isabella Home in
1910:Falling Spring,
Greenbrier, WVMarrStat: Married Race: White Household
Members:
Name Age John H Young (John F.)
47 Isabella Young 37 Charles H Young 18 Louis J Young 15 William J Young 14 Rhoda B Young 10 Nessie J Young 7 Fannie M Young
4 Missouri Young 1 3/12
Name: Charles Young
(Our Charles?)
1910
Home:Upper Pinch,
Kanawha, WVAge: 42 DOB: Dec 1857 POB: West Virginia Race: White Eth: American Gender: Male Relat
2HoH:Head FPOB: West Virginia MPOB: West Virginia Spouse: Harriet DOM: 1882 MS: Married Yrs.Md.: 18 Res.: Elk Dist (Pcts 1-2),
Kanawha, WVHousehold
Members:
Name Age Charles Young 42 Harriet Young 40 Blanche Young 18 Irvin D Young 16 Luther W Young 14 Everett Young 12 Emmon Young 10 Bessie G Young 5 Walter L Young 4 Charles H Young 1
23.07--George E. Young, b. to Conrad and Elizabeth; d. unk.; m1. 12 Jan 1812 to Eudoshi Hudelson; m2. 1836 to Elizabeth Hayes [Donna Young McMahan says George appears in the 1850 census with this new wife and that Eudoshi has apparently died. See her line in the box below.]
[Tom Young says George was b. 1788; he has their marriage on 29 Dec 1811, some two weeks earlier (this could be the date of receipt of the license with the other the date of the wedding); he has Eudoshi b. 1787 in Kanawha Co, VA (now WV).]
25.00--Lewis Robert Young, b. 15 May 1853; m. 15 Jun 1879 to Ellie Mae Sharp
26.00--Romeo Roy Young,
b. 15 Feb 1886; d. May 1949; m. 2 Mar 1917 to Estel Starcher (b. 3 Aug
1894; d. 29 Mar 1983)
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From: donna mcmahan donnaymacatyahoodotcom
Date: July 15, 2010 To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com Subject: Uriah Young Hello!! I may have another line to add to your family tree! My great-grandfather was Uriah Young from Kanawha Co., WV. I have him in the 1850 Federal Census living with George Young and new wife Elizabeth Hayes. Appearantly Eudoshi Huddleston Young died and George remarried in 1836. Anyway, Uriah married Martha Jane Hannah who lived in there, too. They married in 1888, 1890 if you look it up on the West virginia marriage data base. Uriah and Martha Jane had 7 children in West Virginia: M. M. Pomeroy b. 30 May 1891 d. 197? South Norfolk, Virginia. He never married Ben Burton b. 1892 d. 197? South Norfolk, Virginia. Married Blanche ? Ida Belle b. 1894 James Extra b. 24 December 1895 d. 1985 South Norfolk, Virginia. Married Thelma McPherson and had 12 children (I have all info if you're interested) Daniel Weston b. 07 October 1897 and was rumored by family tales to have moved to Texas, but I haven't tracked him down. Ina Jewel b. 23 December 1899 d.22 May 1988 Elizabeth City, NC She married David McPherson, (James Young married Thelma McPherson and Ina Young married her brother David McPherson) Ivie M b. 17 October 1903 Married John Wallace and lived in South Norfolk/Chesapeake Virginia I have more information on this family line. James was my Grandfather. His 12 children had many children, too! Uriah died around 1904/5 and Martha remarried and had 2 more children. Let me know if you want more! Donna Young McMahan |
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[Mae Van Dinter Note: My lineage is: b. 1788: George E. Young and Eudoshia Huddleston. Their son b 1818, Daniel, married Catherine Hayes. Their son, George W. Young b. 1838, m. Mary Hayes. Their daughter, Elizabeth Catherine Young, b. ca. 1870, d. 1917; m. Charles Kennedy. Their son was my father, Clyde Hansford Kennedy, born 1900, d. 1984. These were from Clendenin area on Elk River. I was born in 1933 at my maternal grandfather's farm on Morris Fork of Blue Creek. So, I believe I am sixth generation from Conrad Jung/Young.] [John M. Gwin Note: I just noticed something interesting about Mae's contribution. If the info we have on the births of her 4.0--Daniel Young and our 4.3 Mary "Mollie" Young are correct, then they have to have been twins! And so I have moved her info (in that blue color) up under Mollie's name until we find out otherwise.] [John M. Gwin Note: In Jan 2009 I found this family in the 1850 census of District 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV), the Ancestry.com summary of which is posted to the right.] |
1850 United States Federal Census about Daniel Young
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| Res/Fam |
Name |
Age |
Est. YOB |
Race/ Sex |
Occupation |
Value RealEst. |
POB |
Other |
John
M. Gwin Comments |
| 1534/1571 |
John
B. Young |
53 |
1797 |
wm |
farmer |
600 |
VA |
This
just
about
has
to be our John Bird Young, husband of
Margaret and father of Harvey (listed here as Harvy). |
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| Margaret
Young |
54 |
1796 |
wf |
VA | |||||
| James S. Young | 27 |
1823 |
wm |
cooper |
VA | ||||
| Jacob A. Young | 24 |
1826 |
wm |
cooper |
VA | ||||
| Harvy
Young |
16 |
1834 |
wm |
laborer |
VA | This
is our 25.00--Harvey Humphrey Young. |
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| Sarah
A. Young |
18 |
1832 |
wf |
VA | |||||
| Nancy
Young |
16 |
1834 |
wf |
VA | |||||
| William
Matheny |
9 |
1841 |
wm |
VA | He
appears in this family in 1860 as well. Could he be a grandson? |
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| Sarah
A. Matheny |
7 |
1843 |
wf |
VA | She
does
not
appear
in 1860 in the family home, but she could easily have just married
around age 16-17. |
| Res/Fam |
Name |
Age |
Est. YOB |
Race/ Sex |
Occupation |
Esta.Val. Real/Pers |
POB |
Other |
John
M. Gwin Comments |
| 1854/1854 |
John
B. Young |
62 |
1798 |
wm |
farmer |
600/250 |
VA |
John
Bird
Young
in
the 14 Aug 1860 census of KanawhaCo., VA |
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| Margaret Young | 65 |
1795 |
wf |
VA | |||||
| Harvey Young | 26 |
1834 |
wm |
laborer |
VA | Harvey
is
still
not
married |
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| Nancy Young | 23 |
1837 |
wf |
VA | |||||
| William
Matheny |
17 |
1843 |
wm |
VA | Here
he
is
again,
first seen ten years ago in 1850. Can this be a grandson to John B. and
Margaret? |
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| Several
other Youngs |
Several
other
Young
families
live in this community: #1853, James S., 28; #1852, Charles W., 51;
#1850, William, 48; to name three on this page alone. These may likely
be relatives as well. |
| Res/Fam |
Name |
Age |
Est. YOB |
Race/ Sex |
Occupation |
Esta.Val. Real/Pers |
POB |
Other |
John
M. Gwin Comments |
| 8/8 |
John
B. Young |
73 |
1797 |
wm |
farmer |
600/250 |
VA now WV |
John
Bird Young |
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| Jane Young | 62 |
1808 |
wf |
keeping house |
VA | Apparently
Margaret
has
died
and John has remarried this young thing. |
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| Harvey H. Young | 34 |
1836 |
wm |
school teacher |
VA now WV | Harvey
is
still
not
married |
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| Annie E. Young | 16 |
1854 |
wf |
VA now WV | |||||
| Filetus
Fleck |
9 |
1861 |
wm |
at home |
VA now WV | Here
he
is
again,
first seen ten years ago in 1850. Can this be a grandson to John B. and
Margaret? |
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| Several
other Youngs |
Several
other
Young
families
live in this community: #11, James A., 71; #9, Charles W., 60; #10,
Samuel M., 30; #12, Edmond P., 32; to name four on this page alone.
These may likely be relatives as well. |
I sent you this message in Dec and never got an answer. I take it you are Dot and Adrian's kid??
Beverly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beverly Goding" <goding@netw.com>
To: "jmcdgwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Keepin' in touch with cousins!When I was a little girl, I used to write to Maude Stanley all the time in Charleston, WVA. I also knew Dot and Adrian very well. They stayed at our house, and I used to get letters from them and the Keeney sisters--and I adored George Stanley. My father was named after the Stanley family.
3.0--Mabel Wood Carr; m1. Clement Edgar Farenkamm; m2. Olen Glade CarrSo if I have it correctly above, then:4.2--Lillian Mabel Farenkamm 1 year
4.2--Stanley Farenkamm; m1 Elaine Winifred Ward; m2 Ann Elizabeth Ebbert5.0--Beverly Farenkamm; m. Ralph Joel GodingSF m2 Ann Elizabeth Ebbert6.0--Glade Phillip Goding; m1 Dawn Hartman; m2 Marlyn Kragh7.1--Krystle "K" GodingGPG m2 Marlyn Kragh7.2--Zoe Goding6.0--Wayne Stanley Goding; m Cary Lee Goullette7.1--Natalia Rae Goding
7.2--LaTara Ann Goding
7.3--James Joel Goding
7.4--Justin Wayne Goding5.0--Joseph Glade Farenkamm; m Phyliss Horn
Fannie and Mary Young were sisters;Maybe ---- sounds good to me.
Mamie Stanley and Mabel Carr were 1st cousins;
Dot and Stanley are 2nd cousins;
You and I are 3rd cousins; and
Your kids and mine are 4th cousins.
In Jesus,So what church do you go to John?
John
Beverly
Hello, what a nice job you have
done and many hours of labor to produce. I am a distant family member.
[Here's more on my line:]
Cousins:
Last weekend I was in Lancaster, PA, at the Tell Cedars of Lebanon
Midwinter Conference at the Host Inn; I arrived Friday afternoon and
went to the visitor center and began inquiring about our geneology,
then I went to the Moravian Town of Littitz which is 10 miles or so
North of Lancaster.
This is the town where Sutter came back home to after they trashed his mill and land in the California Gold Rush. Joe Wood's Gold Wagon circa 1898 was on display there when cousin Stanley Farenkamm took me there to see it in1989 or so. His wife Mary (Young) was a descendent of Mathias Jung in Lancaster. Michael Jung was the only one with that name buried in the cemetery behind the Church in Littitz.
Mathias and his younger brother Marcus came over from Rotterdam on the "Loyal Judith" to Philadelphia and then to Lancaster where Mathias was a burgess (mayor of the boro) and cordwainer (cut cordwood for his store) and Marcus was a blacksmith. They changed their names in 1747 to Matthew Young and Marks or Markes Young when they gave allegiance to King George.
In the Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine on Page 122 for 1965 at mid page below Item (13) Orphans Court in the next paragraph it reads "John Hobson who intermarryed with the widow of Mathias Young (footnote 15, deceased is appointed guardian over Henry Herclerodt, Orphan child of Henry Herclodt deceased, in room of the said Mathias Young."
Footnote 15 reads: "The will of Matthew Young of Lancaster Borough, dated 12 July and proved 27 July 1749, mentions his wife but not by name, children Conrad, Jacob, Catharine, Mary and Christina and nominated his brother Marks Young executor. Will Book A-1,177:1749."
The will on microfilm in the Lancaster Mennonite Historical Society, just down Rt. 30 from the Host Inn at 2215 Millstream Road where Carolyn Wenger is Director, Lancaster, PA 17602-1429, is written in English script and also mentions John Graves as an executor and gives all the children 50 pounds Pa Currency when they are 21 and Conrad as the primary heir, being the oldest son; the house/store was located next to property owned by E. Stoudt, and there is a brewery by that name in Adamsburg today. Copies of the Will are available from the Court House where the microfilm was made.
I hope this is helpful to all my
cousins and please pass it on.
JOHN COREY
From: "John R. Corey"
Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006
Subject: Re: family infoBeverly, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE MY MOM'S DAR RECORD WHICH IS NOW MY SAR RECORD. I DON'T HAVE THEM HANDY BUT WILL CONJECTURE FROM MEMORY.
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 John R. Corey writes:bgodingatverizondotnet>
To: "John R. Corey"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006
Subject: family info
Hi,
1.) Was wondering if you know anything about Mary Elizabeth Young? I have a picture of her and on it is written -- Mary Elizabeth Young, part Chickahominy Indian. Does this ring a bell? Who was her mother? Is there a possibility she could be Indian?WHEN THE SOLDIERS CAME AND TOOK ALL THE CATTLE, HOGS, HORSES AND PRODUCE OF CONRAD YOUNG AND HIS WIFE MARGARET JAMES, SISTERS MARY ELIZABETH AND FANNY RODE OFF ON THEIR SIDE SADDLES AND WERE TAKEN IN BY THEIR COUSINS THE RUFFNERS. CONRAD AND HIS WIFE MARGARET WERE TAKEN OFF TO CAMP CHASE?2.) Does anyone know what George Stanley's real last name is? His parents were massacred by Indians when he was 7 years old, while he was watching.AFTER THE CIVIL WAR THEIR LAND, WHERE MOM IS NOW IN MEADOWBROOK MANOR, WAS BOUGHT UP BY CARPETBAGGERS (THE CABELLS?)
MARY ELIZABETH'S MOTHER WAS MARGARET JAMES WHOSE FATHER WAS JESSE JAMES. HER MOTHER WAS A MORRIS AND HER FATHER FOUGHT IN THE VIRGINIA MILITIA DURING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR.
MARY WAS THE THIRD WIFE OF JOE WOOD, WHOSE GOLD WAGON IS AT SUTTER'S MILL NATIONAL PARK, ACCORDING TO YOUR DAD WHEN HE TOOK ME THERE.
OUR GRANDMOTHER MABEL STANLEY GRAFTON, WHO LIVED TO BE ALMOST 104, SAID WE WERE PART CHEROKEE AND POCAHONTAS' TRIBE--WHICH I THOUGHT TO BE DELAWARE, BUT COULD BE CHICKAHOMINY(?).
EVIDENTLY THIS MAY BE ONE OF MARY'S SIBLINGS, AS GEORGE WASHINGTON STANLEY WAS THE HUSBAND OF OUR GREAT-GRANDMOTHER FANNY YOUNG STANLEY, MARY ELIZABETH'S SISTER.Love,GEORGE WASHINGTON STANLEY'S FATHER WAS ISAAC STANLEY FROM GEORGE'S CREEK, THE NEXT HOLLOW EAST OF CAMPBELL'S CREEK WHERE THE STANLEY HOME WAS AT THE MOUTH OF WASH HOLLOW.
PERHAPS ISAAC'S DAD WAS GEORGE STANLEY? OUR OLDEST COUSIN GEORGE STANLEY WILL BE 96 IN OCTOBER. IT WAS HIS 29 TH ANNUAL FAMILY REUNION I ATTENDED ON JULY 4TH AT PUTNAM COUNTY PARK WITH HIS GRANDDAUGHTERS THERE FROM NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AND CARSON CITY, NEVADA. GEORGE'S PHONE NUMBER IN CHESAPEAKE, A DEMOCRATIC TOWN WHERE HE WAS THE REPUBLICAN MAYOR TWICE, IS 304--949-4132. ASK HIM? PERHAPS COUSIN JOHN GWIN HAS THIS INFORMATION?
LOVE, john corey
Bev
From: "John R. Corey" <metromountainatjunodotcom>
Date: January 1, 2007 10:19:13 PM MST
To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com
Subject: Stanley/Young UpdateCousin John,
I was in Charleston last Saturday 2006 with Cousin George Stanley, 96; he showed me the Stanley family as researched by a Belcher nephew. It said our forefathers were called Stonely back in England around 1611 or so. I also saw that the "Loyal Judith" came from Rotterdam to Philadelphia with our ancestor Mathias Jung (Matthew Young after 1747) in 1732 and not 10 years later as I believed. It also said that Captain John Young, the scout for Washington, Indian Fighter, and incorporator of Charleston buried on the hill above Young's Bottom near Clendennin, was the father of Charles Conrad Young, our great-grandfather who is buried in the Hendrick Cemetery in the curve before Hawk's Nest State Park. Charles Conrad was Fanny Young Stanley's and Mary Young Wood's father and owned the land where Mom is at the Meadowbrook Nursing Center. George will have David or Doris Aliff mail me the pages about the Stanley/ Young family.
From: "John R. Corey" <metromountain@juno.com>
Date: August 1, 2007
To: bgodingatverizondotnet
Subject: Re: Our Geneology
Kearney, Clay County, Missouri, USA; Died April 3, 1882 (aged 34); St. Joseph, Missouri, USA
When my grandparents and Aunt Mary visited West Virginia, someone took them out and showed them a great big rock. They said it was the grave of Margaret James. My mom took a picture -- but I don't know where it is. Love, Beverly
----- Original Message ----
From: John R. Corey <metromountain@juno.com>
To: bgodingatverizondotnet
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007
Subject: Re: Our Geneology
Cousin Beverly,
Grandma Grafton (Mabel Stanley Grafton) said we were related to Jesse James and Harry Truman. Jesse James was the 1784 version or father of Margaret James Young in the DAR & SAR Geneology that is registered. Grandmother said Solomon Young, Harry Truman's Father-in-law had his family bible burned and the connection could NOT be proven, so I am glad you have cleared this up.
However, Harry Truman was Grandmaster of Masons in Missouri, and both of the Adams, Sam and John Quincy, were part of the Anti-Masonic movement? Which Adams was it that was mentioned in the Ruffner lineage as the governor was allegedly a cousin who took in Fanny and Mary Young after Conrad and Margaret were taken off to Camp Chase???? and then lost their land to carpetbaggers when they returned after the Civil War. John
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 bgodingatverizondotnet writes:
One account of the Booker T. Washington family and the Ruffner reunion said we were related to Adams I believe. We are definitely related to Harry S. Truman. He was a cousin of my grandmother, Mabel. I also retracked back from his family history to make sure it was the same people, and it was. We had a very busy, pioneer family. Bev
----- Original Message ----
From: John R. Corey <metromountainatjunodotcom>
To: tomattomyoungdotus
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007
Subject: Re: Our Geneology
Tom,
When I was an elected PA State Constable I went in the CourtHouse in Lancaster and copied the will that was proved (probated) in July1749 when Matthew Young's widow intermarried with a Hobson; I believe hehad 2 sons and 3 daughters. His next door neighbor was a Staub family
and there is a brewery there today with that name!
My paternal ancester with the same name as me, John Corey, builtthe first log cabin in the village of New London, south of Norwalk, Mylanand Sandusky and west of Akron. Perhaps we could meet near there. Thatwould be southeast of Toledo I believe! I look forward to meeting youbefore too long! John Corey is buried next to a Grange Hall in Lake Twp.East of Coldwater Michigan! John
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:20:35 -0400 "Thomas Young" writes:
John, By the way, I never answered your question about where we are. Unfortunately Toledo is on the Western side of the state, actually on the western end of Lake Erie. Here's an idea. . . My father's immediate family used to hold reunions every year or two in West Virginia. It seems that the family stopped doing that after the last one about three years ago. Most of my father's generation has passed away, and the cousins are truly everywhere. The idea of rounding up as many ancestors of Mathias Young as possible for a weekend somewhere has some appeal to me, although I think it would be a daunting task. (Lancaster comes to mind) The trouble is communication and also the fact that so many are older, or perhaps too young to care. But what a great time that would be if we could pull it off! I know the descendants of Thomas Jefferson do this to this day.
Also, I recently posted a picture of the first page of Mathias' will on my blog. Pretty interesting stuff. I have a photocopy of the whole document as well as some of the other documents from the Lancaster museum. I have no objection to anyone "lifting" it off the site. If you or anyone else is interested, I'll post the whole thing.
Tom
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John R. Corey
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007
> To: tom young
> Subject: Re: Our Geneology
Tom, I once again saved the Geneology you sent until I can get the program to open it; cousin John Gwin has the geneology site for our family and I have cced this to him. I wonder if he opened what you sent him? Gleevec normally costs $2000/month, but Novartis gives me samples to keep my leukemia in check and my glucose number is around 160 as I monitor it daily. I have no problem getting around, but get tired and need rest more than I used to. Cousin John is thin and seems to have survived his horrible car accident many years ago well, at least that was my impression when we met at the New Mexico Border several years ago. I will gladly come visit you in Ohio if you give me directions as Pittsburgh is not that far away I believe. John Corey By the way Marcus was Mathias Jung's brother and he was a blacksmith while Matthew was a burgeous and cord wainer!
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<jmcdgwin@zianet.com> Date: January 19, 2009 5:27:27 PM MST To: "Judi Brinegar" <jbrinegaratcausekeepersdotcom> Subject: Re: Young Connection Judi, thanks for writing! I found them in 1860. I have another meeting to go to right now, so I must leave it at this. But we'll find them again in 1850, 1870, and 1880, and perhaps we'll find one of her parents living with them. :-) Best to you, In Jesus, John (Contact information:) =========================================== John M. Gwin: JMcDGwin@zianet.com U.S. Mail Address: 1845 Anderson Dr., Las Cruces, NM 88001 USA Telephone: (575) 522-2171 GENEALOGY Home Page: http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/genealogyhomepage.htm How to know God personally (No kidding!): (:-) http://www.navigators.org/us/resources/illustrations/items/The%20Bridge%20to%20Life =========================================== 1860
United States Federal Census about Wm A Allen
Name: Wm A Allen Age in 1860: 45 Birth Year: abt 1815 Birthplace: Virginia Home in 1860: Kanawha, Virginia Post Office: Clendennin Household Members: Name...........................Age Wm. A. Allen..............45 Elizabeth Allen..........35 Janette Allen...............11 Ruth Allen.....................9 Simon Allen..................8 William A. Allen..........4 John H. Allen................2 months On
Jan 19, 2009 Judi Brinegar wrote:
Hoping you can help me on one of my Young family members. I am looking for the parents of Elizabeth Young who was married to William Augustus Allen. She was born circa 1820 and died 15Jan1890 in Clendenin, Kanawha Co WV. Buried at Hayes Cemetery at Falling Rock, Kanawha Co WV. I believe they were married at the home of George Young. I know a Charles Young represented her for many years when she was trying to get William’s pension from the Civil War. Children included: Jeanetta (m. Keenan Coleman),
John Henry (m. Savannah Rucker), William A. (m. Cassandra England), Uriah (m. Sarah Icenhower, Savannah Rucker Allen after John’s death), Rutha (my ancestor-m. Isaiah Smith), Maria, Rosina (m. Andrew Floyd England) I can’t determine who Elizabeth’s parents were. I though George and Eudosia Huddleston Young, but maybe not. Do you have any info on her? Thanks for any help you may be able to give me. Judi Brinegar Researching Smith, Allen, Young, Carte, Taylor, Chapman, Sampson and Hall From: Melinda Garbacz <sissyunderscore1999atmsndotcom> Date: October 27, 2009 To: <jmcdgwin@zianet.com> Subject: In regards to William A. Allen and wife Elizabeth Hi John, I saw your questions sent to Judi Brinegar posted on her website back in January. I don't know if anyone has answered your question so I just wanted to share with you what I have. Elizabeth was not a Young; she was a Hayes. Her parents were John Hayes and Elizabeth "Betsy" Naylor. After John's death in 1836, Betsy married George Young. That is why Elizabeth and William were married at the home of George Young. This was her mother and stepfather's home. After George died, Elizabeth's mother went on to marry a third time to Samuel Estep. I hope this helps! Best of Luck, Melinda Patton Garbacz |
1880 United States Federal Census about Elizabeth Allen
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| Comments: | Great website. Very detailed. I received and email from a cousin yesterday talking about John Young "Revolutionary War" married to Keziah Tackett. I have been intrigued by this information and have been web searching since. I would like to find info on the family between John and William Bruce Young of Clendenin. W. B. Young was my great-grandfather. We are having a family reunion in June and would love to be able to share some info about our history. |
26.04--Mamie Chloe Stanley, b. Sep 1879 ("Maw-maw" told everyone she was born in 1882--indeed, the little lie is even inscribed on her tombstone--however, the 1880 census tells us the truth:)[listed as Mamie Stanley, age 9 mos., in June 1880 census]; d. 1957; bd. Witcher Ck. Cem.; m. McDonald Keeney; 7 ch.; 22 gch.25.05--Mary Jane Stanley, b. 1847 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. Jul 1890; m. 2 Jan 1831 [sic--obvious error]27.01--Maxine Stanley Keeney, m. Norman Holt Harless, Sr.; 7 ch.;
27.02--Hannah Margaret Keeney, m. never; d. on inauguration day of George W. Bush, 2001
27.03--Dorothy Lee "Dot" Keeney, b. 10 Feb 1915; d. 31 May 2005 in Las Cruces, NM, near her older son's family, age 90; m. 11 Aug 1942 in New Orleans, LA, to Adrian Sutton Gwin (b. 12 Sep 1916; d. 7 May 2001 in Las Cruces, NM, age 84; body donated to medical science, cremated; in Jun 2005 their ashes were buried, at Dot's request, in Witcher Cemetery); 2 ch.;28.01--John McDonald Gwin, b. 29 Oct 1947; m. Sharon Lynn Hamrick (b. 28 Sep 1951)--[Terry Henderson's father and I are 4th cousins, and Terry and I are 4th cousins once removed; our 3 children are Terry's 5th cousins:]27.04--Mildred Agnes "Millie" Keeney, m. never; still living in Sep 2006 at age 90;29.01--Jeremiah Scott "Jeremy" Gwin; m. Jessica Marie Douglas28.02--Patrick Forsythe Gwin, b. 14 Feb 1951;
29.02--Charity Elizabeth Gwin; m. Beau Scott Pihlaja
29.03--Sarah Joy Gwin; m. Jason D. Johnson
27.05--Albert McDonald "Buster" Keeney, m. Phyllis Caldwell; still living in Sep 2006; 3 ch.
27.06--Helen Pauline "Bennie" Keeney, m. James Thomas "Tom" Metheny, Sr.; both d. in the fall of 1999; 5 ch.
27.07--George McClure Keeney, m. Frankie Lucas; both still living in Sep 2006; 5 ch.
