My double first cousin thrice removed, Martha Roseanne Guinn (Gwin) Holley Lester, owned a photo album with her own initials (MRH) engraved on its front. The initials indicate that it was given to her (or purchased by her) during the time she was married to Mr. Holley. It may even have been a wedding gift to her. Its original, hand-written index lists the names of over 70 people whose photos evidently appeared in the album at one time.

By the time my double fourth cousin, Barbara Ward, who now owns the album, inherited it, some of the photos had been removed and/or misplaced, while others may have been added without identification. Identifying all the pictures has been her goal for several years, and recently I also developed an interest in helping reach it.

While great strides have been made, several unidentified photos still remain. Are we blood-related to these people? Or are some only friends of the family and not related otherwise? This page is a collection of information sources that seem to be close to identifying the people in the following four photographs, each of whom was formerly marked only as "unknown".

Table of Contents:

A. Related photos selected from the old photo album
B. Select TIMBERLAKE items from the 1880 Census
C. E.mail from: Barbara L.Ward
D. The diary of Rev. J. Cotten of Cahawba
E. The book Vital Data from Cemeteries in Dallas County, Alabama
F. The 1850 Census of Dallas Co.
G. E.mails from: Carol Rackley
H. This chart illustrates Carole Rackley's e.mails, above, and ties in some of this page's other data
I. From Notable Men of Alabama by DuBose: EDGAR GILMORE GIVHAN, M.D.
J. LOOKING BACK: Remembering Aldrich 'street'
K. Old letter from John S. Timberlake to James C. S. Timberlake
L. This is a list of all GIVHANs in 1880 in the USA
M. These are copies of my correspondence with Ms. Carole Rackley and others
N. Excerpts from 1870 and 1900 censuses.
O.  Photo of an 1869 Dallas Co., AL, tax receipt signed by Mr. Timberlake
P.  This is a separate page entitled: TIMBERLAKE FAMILIES: An Attempt to Piece Together Data from Four Sources.

Martha Gwin Lester's Notes	Album Photos	John Gwin's Comments:
Mr. Timberlake       Mattie Timberlake		This is James Charles S. Timberlake, tailor, who is in Gainesville, Hall Co., GA, for the 1880 census, and by 1890 in Monticello, Jefferson Co., FL. (See notes below for Minnie Givhan.) The fact that he is a tailor, as disclosed in this census, above, suggests that he could have been in business with the Bassets of Cahaba, who married into the Gwin family. But Carole Rackley says that the 1870 census shows him to be the county tax collector in Selma, not a tailor; nevertheless, he could've been apprenticing under the Bassets as a tailor. I found a letter written in 1890 from a John S. Timberlake to this same J. C. S. Timberlake, then living in Monticello, Florida.  It can be read below or at the good site from which it is quoted: http://www.castlen.homestead.com/Letters.html   This is Mattie Holmes Timberlake, who is in Gainesville, Hall Co., GA, for the 1880 census, and who is the twin sister of Mary Holmes Givhan, wife of Joseph Phillip, and mother of Minnie.
Minnie Givhan		She is the daughter of Philip Givhan (below), his full name being Dr. Joseph Philip Givhan. Neither Carole Rackley nor I have been able to find Philip Givhan anywhere in the US in the 1880 census under any spelling.  In 1880, Minnie Givhan, age 12, b. in AL, was living in Gainesville, Hall Co., GA, in the home of her uncle and aunt, James C. S. Timberlake,  and Mattie H. Timberlake, 30, b. AL (parents both b. in SC).  Carole Rackley found Minnie in 1870: "According to the 1870 census records for Athens, [Dallas County] Alabama, Minnie was the only child of Dr. Joseph Philip Givhan and Mary Holmes Givhan. Minnie was born in 1868." (This could mean that the album's owner, Martha Roseanne Gwin "Guinn" Holley Lester, likely knew these Givhans not only in Perry County but in the Town of Athens, Dallas Co., as well!) But as we see below, it turns out that Minnie was not an only child, her mother evidently having been pregnant with her brother at the time of the 1870 census.
Phillip Givhan		This is Dr. Joseph Philip Givhan, father of Minnie Givhan and nephew of the Dr. Thomas Jacob Givhan mentioned in Rev. Cotten's diary (see entries D, E, and F below). He married James Timberlake's wife's twin sister, Mary Holmes, being himself first cousin to them both. See also Barbara Ward's note, entry C, below.

Name:    James C. S. TIMBERLAKE
Age:    36
Estimated birth year:    <1844>
Birthplace:    South Carolina
Occupation:    Tailor
Relation:    Self
Home in 1880:    Gainesville, Hall, Georgia
Marital status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Head of household:    James C. S. TIMBERLAKE
Father's birthplace:    SC
Mother's birthplace:    SC

Name:    Mattie H. TIMBERLAKE
Age:    30
Estimated birth year:    <1850>
Birthplace:    Alabama
Occupation:    Keeping House
Relation:    Wife
Home in 1880:    Gainesville, Hall, Georgia
Marital status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Head of household:    James C. S. TIMBERLAKE
Father's birthplace:    SC
Mother's birthplace:    SC

Name:    Martha J. TIMBERLAKE
Age:    61
Estimated birth year:    <1819>
Birthplace:    South Carolina
Occupation:    At House
Relation:    Mother
Home in 1880:    Gainesville, Hall, Georgia
Marital status:    Widowed
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Head of household:    James C. S. TIMBERLAKE
Father's birthplace:    SC
Mother's birthplace:    SC

Name:    Minnie GIVHAN
Age:    12
Estimated birth year:    <1868>
Birthplace:    Alabama
Occupation:    In School
Relation:    Niece
Home in 1880:    Gainesville, Hall, Georgia
Marital status:    Single
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Head of household:    James C. S. TIMBERLAKE
Father's birthplace:    AL
Mother's birthplace:    AL

Date: Tue Oct 21, 2003  12:49:59 AM US/Mountain
To: <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Photo album index

Hi John,
I checked out early marriages of Dallas Co. and may have leads on the "Givhan" name.

Jacob Givhan m. Mary M. Holmes 1839  (didn't we have a Mrs. Holmes? [YES--see photo no. 54 in the album and Carole Rackley's e.mails and chart below.]
William P. Givhan m. Louisiana Hunter 1843  Could this be "Phillip"?

Maybe this will help. Catch you later,
BARB

"This morning 3 of the bodies killed by the explosion of the Russel were brought up.  Mr. Watts was one.  They were all taken off on hearses.  Bro. Guinn came to see me this evening after supper and conversed to edification. Dr. Givhan died yesterday."

E. A. Givhan, 26, F, AL
Wm. J. Givhan, 6, M, AL
J. A. Givhan, 5, M, AL
M. D. Givhan, 3, F, AL
P. A. Givhan, 2, M, AL
M. A. P. Aylette 63, F, VA
A. K. Givhan 66, F, VA.

Therefore, Dr. Thomas J. Givhan must have died just months after this census was taken.

If Carole Rackley's theory is correct, the P. A. is not the Dr. Joseph Philip Givhan pictured in the above photo; rather, this P. A., though also named Philip, is the second cousin of Dr. J.P.G. and is the same age as Dr. J.P.G.'s daughter Minnie.

E.mail #1 of 22 Oct 2004: According to the 1870 census records for Athens, [Athens Beat, Dallas Co.] Alabama, Minnie was the only child of Dr. Joseph Philip Givhan and Mary Holmes Givhan. Minnie was born in 1868. (She is obviously the Minnie Givhan, age 12, listed with James Timberlake and his wife in Georgia in 1880. I have been unable to find anything about her life after that.)

It is probable that the Philip Givhan in your album is Dr. Joseph Philip Givhan, son of Jacob Givhan of Perry County, Ala., not Philip Givhan, son of Dr. Thomas J. Givhan, of Dallas County, since Mary Holmes (daughter of Jesse Holmes) is Joseph Philip's wife and she is also in the album. [John M. Gwin Note: I think she may not be in the album; rather, it is Mary Holmes' MOTHER who is in the album.It seems to me that were she Mary herself, she'd be called Mrs. Givhan or Miss Holmes, not Mrs. Holmes, don't you think? Regardless, your point (i.e., that her last name's presence in the book is significant) is well-made and well-taken.  :-)]

Thomas J. Givhan's father was also named Jacob Givhan. He owned a plantation on the Alabama River at Sardis, Dallas County. Jacob Givhan, of Perry County, was Jacob of Sardis' nephew (son of his brother, Job Philip Givhan.)  Whoever wrote the old song, "I'm My Own Grandpa" must have been a genealogist!

The story gets a liitle strange after that. I had assumed Minnie's parents were dead, but Dr. Joseph Philip Givhan was born January 25, 1844, and died November 8, 1899.  Mary Holmes Givhan was born August 18, 1844 and died April 26, 1915.  Both are buried at Pine Hills Cemetery, Jemison, Ala.  I could find them in no census in Alabama, Georgia, Florida, or South Carolina after 1870.  It is possible that Minnie was counted in the James Timberlake 1880 entry when she was there only as a visitor.  Missing census records for 1890 also cause problems.  I still plan to look for Minnie in old Alabama and Georgia marriage records and also try to find the Timberlake connection.  Do you have any idea what Mattie Timberlake's maiden name was?

In going through my records for Jesse Holmes of the Athens community, Dallas County, Ala., I have found that he had six children, among whom were two daughters, Mary and Martha, both born in 1846.  I do not have a record of whether they were twins.  In my previous letter, I explained that Mary married Dr. Joseph Philip Givhan, and that Minnie was their daughter, born in 1868 (and as nearly as I can determine, their only child.)  Without a marriage record, I have no proof, but the following seems the only reasonable solution.  I believe Mattie H. Timberlake was Martha Holmes, sister of Mrs. Joseph Philip (Mary Holmes) Givhan, and therefore the aunt of Minnie Givhan.  However, the fact that Minnie is listed as being in school would indicate that this was no casual visit.  Mary and Martha were both born in 1846.  Both were born in Alabama, and their parents were born in South Carolina.

E.mail #2 of 23 Oct 2004: In yesterday's letter I wrote that Dr. Givhan's 1870 census entry was Athens, Ala., but it was the Athens beat in Dallas County. 

You may have this in your records:  In the Dallas County 1770 census, James and Martha(her true name) Timberlake were living there, and he was a tax collector.  According to the 1850 Richard Timberlake entry in York County, S.C., James was 6 years old.  In the 1860 entry James is not listed.  Could he have left home at 16, or was he living with relativies?  How did he end up in Dallas County, Ala. ten years later?

In the Timberlake letter to James in Monticello, Fla., the relative states that Richard died in the Civil War, which would explain his widow, Martha, living with James and Mattie in 1880 and the fact that I could not find Richard in the census records after 1860.

I hope this helps.  If I find real documentation of the fact that James Timberlake's wife was Martha Holmes, I'll let you know.

E.mail #3 of 24 Oct 2004: In some files I had not examined in over 20 years, I found the answer.  It is a Holmes file that was given to me at a Givhan reunion in Montgomery in 1980.  The reunion planners had a motel room set up with a copier and plenty of paper.  Many people had brought information, and we were free to copy whatever we wanted.  Sometimes the information came from two or three people, and there was no way to document all sources.  However, this confirms what I sent earlier today.  Mary and Martha Holmes were twins, daughters of Jesse and Frances Whitlock Holmes.  This record says they were born in 1844.  Mary married Joseph Philip Givhan (who was her cousin) and Martha married Charles Timberlake. That information came from a descendant, Rudolph Caine, who had done extensive, and very accurate, research. 

I also have a notation from "Notable Men of Alabama" by DuBose that Dr. Edgar Gilmore Givhan, of Montevallo, was born in Uniontown, Perry County, September 24, 1870.  He was the son of Dr. Joseph Philip and Mary Holmes Givhan.  She was a twin daughter of Jesse Holmes, brother of Anderson Holmes.  Joseph Philip served three years in the Civil War   Dr. Edgar Givhan served three years as resident physician for the Alabama Girls Industrial School.  He was unmarried in 1904.

This means that Minnie did have a brother who was two years younger.  Mary was probably pregnant when the 1870 census was taken because he is not mentioned, but Minnie is, age 2.

From personal knowledge, I know he married later and had at least one son, Edgar Gilmore Givhan, Jr.  He also became a physician and was chief-of-staff at a hospital in Birmingham.  I met him at the 1980 reunion.  He had made some trips to France, trying to trace Givhan Huguenot roots.  He died before our 1982 reunion in South Carolina, but his unmarried adult daughters attended.

I found nothing to indicate why Minnie was living with her aunt, but spending months with relatives was not unusual in those days.

I don't know how much follow-up on James C. S. Timberlake you have done.  He was in Alabama in 1870, Georgia in 1880, Monticello, Fla. in `1890, Yell, Ark. in 1900.  He and Martha were still together and had a 17-year-old daughter, Martha.  There is also a 19-year-old, Lee Timberlake, married.  He may be James and Martha's son.

Carol Rackley

I. From Notable Men of Alabama by DuBose:

EDGAR GILMORE GIVHAN, M.D.
One of the prominent young physicians of Shelby County, Ala, is Dr. E. G. Givhan of Montevallo.  He was born at Uniontown, Perry Co., Sept. 24, 1870, the son of Dr. Jos. P. Givhan and Mary Holmes.  Dr. Jos. P. was an excellent physician and spent a long life in the practice of his profession.  He was veteran of the Civil war of three years' service, a Democrat, a Freemason, and a Baptist. He was the son of Jacob and Mary Holmes Givhan, both natives of South Carolna, who settled in Dallas County in 1834.  Our subject's father died Nov. 11, 1900. His wife was a daughter of Anderson and Maria Holmes, natives of South Carolina, who came to Alabama about the same year as the Givhans. They also were Baptists in faith. Dr. Givhan obtained his literary training at Dallas Academy and Howard College from which he graduated in 1892. He then matriculated at the Alabama Medical College in Mobile, where he graduated with valedictorian honors in 1894. He began practice in Jemison, Ala., but in 1895 settled in Montevallo, where he has since resided. He was for three years resident physician to the Alabama Girls' Industrial...

 

By ADRIAN GWIN for the Daily Mail A three-mile, red-dog road tied Aldrich to Montevallo when I lived in there. Maybe still does. Montevallo was as familiar as porkinbeans, but Aldrich was something new to us. Almost exactly a hundred years ago, Mother got a degree in telegraphy at Montevallo from the Alabama Girls' Industrial School.  She talked about it, and used the telegraphy for the rest of her life. But I never heard her mention Aldrich. And, though she never mentioned it, I

know she was there on occasion. She sometimes told of hiking out to Davis Falls "with some of the girls" to pick wildflowers. The pathway to Davis Falls ran right through Aldrich. In fact, when we lived there in 1928, it was the "street" before our house, and we often went out to the falls to pick Indian Pipes, a rather rare wildflower. Sometime after mother learned telegraphy, the "Girls' School" changed its name to Montevallo College, and it was that for years, finally changing, fairly recently, I believe, to the University of Montevallo. The college campus took up maybe a

third of the town. Aldrich, all the blurbs said, was a coal camp village, "The home of Montevallo, the world's best coal." You could light that coal with a match! It would sputter like a pine knot, and flash into flame as quickly. We went to school in Montevallo. Aldrich was nothing but the mine and offices, the railroad depot, and lots of mine houses. The public school in Montevallo was one of the college buildings, but a big new 12-grade "high school" was being built nearby. The business district was all of a block long. Wilson's Drugstore was on the corner. I so well remember the

marble-topped tables and wire-backed, wire-legged chairs there.  With ceiling fans purring quietly overhead. And I well remember the red-dog three miles from Aldrich to Montevallo! Once when mother got sick and delirious from bee stings, I RAN that three miles at night, barefooted, to get the doctor (we didn't remember the six phones in Aldrich, one of them at the mine superintendent's home next door).  But my best memory of Aldrich is out that woods path to lovely Davis Falls, to pick those enchanting Indian Pipes, as lovely and interesting as telegraphy is scarce today.

[John M. Gwin NOTE: For the last year before Dad died, I had the privilege of serving as his courier. He had served the Charleston Daily Mail [Charleston, WV] for over fifty years, primarily as a feature writer. After his aorta repair in West Virginia in 1999, we decided it would be best to move them out here to New Mexico to be near us. We used up some of his backlog of "columns" during those first months of recuperation, but then he wanted to get back to writing again. He'd crank something out by hand at their apartment, then I'd pick it up that afternoon and type it up on my computer before taking a hardcopy back to him to proof. When he had it "just so," I'd pop it into an e.mail attachment and have it on his editor's desk at The Mail in 20 seconds flat.

What was interesting to me about this particular story was what we left out. He was telling me about that three-mile moonlight run to Montevallo when he was 11 and a half years old. The older three kids had stayed back to care for their mom, and he was scared to death that she might die. He said he'd never run so hard in his life. When he got to the doc's house, he was so out of breath he couldn't speak for over a minute. The good doctor had put his bag in the back, started up his car, and put young Adrian in the front seat beside him for the three-mile ride back to Aldrich. I'd asked him any number of questions to help get his memory in gear while he was writing the story, and one of them had been if he'd recalled the doctor's name.

"Givhan," he'd replied without missing a beat. "G-I-V-H-A-N, Givhan."

My whole purpose in putting this page together is and has been to try to throw some light on just who these "mystery people" were whose pictures appear in the Old Photo Album with my ancestors'. So tonight when I saw and read for the first time Mr. DuBose's article about Edgar Gilmore Givhan, M. D., above, and realized he just had to have been the doctor who treated my grandmother for bee stings that summer's night in 1928, I got a little shiver to think that even though we're likely not really blood related to these Givhans, Holmes, or Timberlakes, this story might just have swung full circle.]

Milldale, Warren County, Virginia
April 2, 1890

Mr. J. C. S. Timberlake
Monticello, Florida

My Dear Sir and Relation,

For such I can learn you to be, in tracing the biography of our family and in writing up its history, I find we have all descended from the same English ancestors consisting of three brothers, Richard, John, and James, and their half sister, Sallie Crump, all of whom came to Virginia in the year 1738 and settled, my great grandfather Richard (the elder) on the Pamunkey River, John at Port Royal, and James emigrated to Illinois, from whose descendants the family has spread out over western Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Missouri, Kansas, etc.

John's posterity settled in Fluvanna and about Charlottesville, Louisa County, in lower Virginia, and emigrated to North Carolina, Tennessee, and the South-west, and a branch of them into Kentucky, about Lexington.

Richard, my great grandfather, and his posterity settled very largely in lower Virginia, and of whose children, three brothers, David my grandfather, Harfield and William came to the valley of Virginia, then a new country, raised large families and grew rich and prosperous.

I have just learned of you from a Mr. Carroll, of Charleston, West Virginia, Jefferson County, where I have, or I should say we have, numerous Timberlake relations. Mr. Carroll said he was visiting Florida during the winter and stopped at a splendid hotel in Monticello kept by Mr. J.C.S. Timberlake, whom he described as being a whole souled, affable and agreeable gentleman, which is characteristic of our name everywhere and like all the rest of the name, love good living. Mr. Carroll had with him a printed menu and was quite delighted with the proprietor, the hotel, and the bill of fare. He said you told him you were kin to all of the Timberlakes.

So now, with this introductory as to the biography of the family, I am most anxious to hear from you and want you to trace back for me as near as you can, your family on both your paternal and maternal sides as far as you can go. Name your grandfather's brothers and sisters, where they lived. Also name your father's brothers and sisters, and that will enable me to know what generations you or they belong to, and will be easy to trace the relationship to my grandfather, my father and yourselves.

My father, Richard Harfield Timberlake, had only three children, myself the eldest (John S. Timberlake), Richard Lewis, my second brother who was killed during the Confederate War, and my brother Thomas W. Timberlake, who lives near me, and is six feet, three inches tall.

I was born February 16, 1833, Richard was four years younger, and Thomas W. is seven years my junior. I was fifty seven last February 16, 1890.

Permit me to say as a family, we Timberlakes have a great analogy of family traits and resemblance's, and which has been largely perpetuated by numerous intermarriages. We have a family record that has never been surpassed, if equaled, by so large a posterity and so remarkably distinguished for their excellent traits of character wherever found and which is the same everywhere, This may be due largely to the fact that we descend from the old English Anglo Saxons, from whom I have traced our stock, and that the grandfather of our great grandfathers was an old English Nobleman of London, where our family came from and where the name is numerous.

My great grandmother was a Harfield, a lady of the Court of Queen Ann, and that illustrious Queen sent her (my great grandmother), together with my great grandfather and his two brothers, to America in a chartered vessel. The Timberlake urbanity of manner, love of style, good living, etc, is therefore easily traced to nobility itself.

I wish your photo, if possible give me your size, height, description of complexion, color of hair and eyes. Also your age. (If you are an old bachelor, I will keep that a secret)

Now, my father's family; My father's mother was Mary Davis a niece of President Jeff Davis and a daughter of the President's father's brother. My wife is my third cousin, whose mother's grandmother was the sister of our great grandfather, and she married her third cousin, John Casllen [aka CASTLIN], of Macon Georgia who was my father's first cousin. His (Casllen's) mother was a sister to my father's father. I married Carrie Virginia Casllen, my third cousin, at Macon, Georgia, May 1st, 1860.

My brother's wife's great great grandmother was a Miss Bell, and 1/2 sister to George Washington's mother, and on her father's side, related to General Robert E. Lee. Her mother (my brother's wife's mother) was a Timberlake; my father's first cousin, and she is therefore my brother's third cousin, and his wife is third cousin to my wife.

I graduated at the Virginia Military Institute, Lexington, Virginia. My brother Thomas W. Timberlake graduated at the University of Virginia. We are farmers, and live near each other.

Respectfully, your relation
John S. Timberlake

 
---Name----------(City,Co.,St.)--------Age--<Est.YOB>--POB--Sex--Relat2HoH--Race

Allie GIVHAN Summerfield, Dallas, AL 50 <1830> Alabama  Female  Wife Black
Daniel GIVHAN Summerfield, Dallas, AL 22 <1858> Alabama  Male  Son Black
Golddust GIVHAN Summerfield, Dallas, AL 14 <1866> Alabama  Male  Son Black
Harriet GIVHAN Summerfield, Dallas, AL 20 <1860> Alabama  Female  Dau  Black
Madison GIVHAN Summerfield, Dallas, AL 10 <1870> Alabama  Male  Son Black
Mat GIVHAN Summerfield, Dallas, AL 50 <1830> Alabama  Male  Self Black
Stanford GIVHAN Summerfield, Dallas, AL 12 <1868> Alabama  Male  Son Black
Peter GIVHAN Valley Creek, Dallas, AL 33 <1847> Alabama  Male  Self Black
Rhody GIVHAN Valley Creek, Dallas, AL 24 <1856> Alabama  Female  Wife Black
Sallie GIVHAN Valley Creek, Dallas, AL 7M <1879> Alabama  Female  Dau Black

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Charley GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 15 <1865> ALA  Male  SSon
Chlora GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 15 <1865> ALA  Female  Dau
Columbus GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 23 <1857> ALA  Male  Self
Dennis GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 59 <1821> ALA  Male  Self
Dennis GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 2 <1878> ALA  Male  Son
Elbert GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 16 <1864> ALA  Male  SSon
Ellen GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 41 <1839> ALA  Female  Self
Frank GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 55 <1825> ALA  Male  Self
Frank GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 6 <1874> ALA  Male  Son
Henry GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 9 <1871> ALA  Male  Son

Jenny GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 8 <1872> ALA  Female  Dau
Julian GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 32 <1848> ALA  Female  Wife
Kate GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 39 <1841> ALA  Female  Wife
Phibby GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 15 <1865> ALA  Female  Dau
Rachael GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 40 <1840> ALA  Female  Wife
Tom GIVHAN Braggs, Lowndes, AL 12 <1868> ALA  Male  Son
Tom GIVHAN Letohatchee, Lowndes, AL 20 <1860> Alabama  Male  Self
Winny GIVHAN Letohatchee, Lowndes, AL 40 <1840> Georgia  Female Mother
Edie GIVHAN Prairie Hill & Gordonsville, Lowndes, AL 45 <1835> SC  Female  Wife
Frances GIVHAN Prairie Hill & Gordonsville, Lowndes, AL 2 <1878> AL  F  Dau

Henry GIVHAN Prairie Hill & Gordonsville, Lowndes, AL 13 <1867> AL  Male  Son
John GIVHAN Prairie Hill & Gordonsville, Lowndes, AL 5 <1875> AL  Male  Son
Moses GIVHAN Prairie Hill & Gordonsville, Lowndes, AL 47 <1833> AL  Male  Self
Adeline GIVHAN Steep Creek, Lowndes, AL 32 <1848> Alabama  Female  Wife
Gracie GIVHAN Steep Creek, Lowndes, AL 7 <1873> Alabama  Female  Dau
Mollie GIVHAN Steep Creek, Lowndes, AL 4 <1876> Alabama  Female  Dau
Somers GIVHAN Steep Creek, Lowndes, AL 60 <1820> South Carolina  Male  Self
Somers GIVHAN Steep Creek, Lowndes, AL 18 <1862> Alabama  Male  Son
Violet GIVHAN Steep Creek, Lowndes, AL 9 <1871> Alabama  Female  Dau
Thomas GIVHAN Marion, Perry, AL 31 <1849> AL  M  BroL

Name:    Thomas GIVHAN
Age:    31
Estimated birth year:    <1849>
Birthplace:    Alabama
Occupation:    Clerk
Relation:    BroL
Home in 1880:    Marion, Perry, Alabama
Marital status:    Single
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Father's birthplace:    SC
Mother's birthplace:    VA
Head of household:    William WILKERSON

Name:    William WILKERSON
Age:    46
Estimated birth year:    <1834>
Birthplace:    Alabama
Occupation:    Physician
Relation:    Self
Home in 1880:    Marion, Perry, Alabama
Marital status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Head of household:    William WILKERSON
Father's birthplace:    KY
Mother's birthplace:    GA

Name:    Sarah WILKERSON
Age:    45
Estimated birth year:    <1835>
Birthplace:    Alabama
Occupation:    Keeping House
Relation:    Wife
Home in 1880:    Marion, Perry, Alabama
Marital status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Head of household:    William WILKERSON
Father's birthplace:    NC
Mother's birthplace:    NC

I thought that these three individual entries would make it clear that Thomas Givhan is the younger brother of Sarah Wilkerson; however, Thomas' parents were b. in SC and VA, and Sarah's were both from NC!

This, therefore, would almost have to indicate that the "brother-in-law" relationship between Thomas Givhan and Dr. William Wilkerson would connect Thomas' wife as a sister of William; however, Thomas is listed as "single", not "widowed" or "divorced"!

Can you figure it out for me?

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A. GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 38 <1842> Alabama  Male  Self
A. D. GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 31 <1849> Alabama  Male  Self
Anna GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 15 <1865> Alabama  Female  Dau
Clark GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 9 <1871> Alabama  Male  Son
Hattie GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 4 <1876> Alabama  Female  Dau
Jacob GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 7 <1873> Alabama  Male  Son
Jennie GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 34 <1846> Alabama  Female  Wife
M. M. GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 25 <1855> Alabama  Female  Wife

Mary GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 55 <1825> SC SC SC  F Widowed  Self White
Sarah GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 26 <1854> Alabama  Female  Dau White

Sletla GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 11 <1869> Alabama  Female  Dau
Susan GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 39 <1841> Alabama  Female  Dau
V. N. GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 2 <1878> Alabama  Female  Dau
W. L. GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 3 <1877> Alabama  Male  Son
Walter GIVHAN Pope, Perry, AL 13 <1867> Alabama  Male  Son

Minnie GIVHAN Gainesville, Hall, GA, 12 <1868> AL F Niece

unnamed GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 3M <1880> Mississippi  Male  Son
A. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 70 <1810> Alabama  Male  Self
Aaron GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 5 <1875> Mississippi  Male  Son
Abbie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 18 <1862> Mississippi  Female  Dau

Adaline GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 19 <1861> Mississippi  Female  DauL
Adeline GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 2 <1878> Mississippi  Female  Other
Allen GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 11 <1869> Mississippi  Male  Son
Amie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 70 <1810> Tennessee  Female  Wife
Amie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 16 <1864> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Andr. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 50 <1830> Alabama  Male  Self
Annie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 5 <1875> Mississippi  Female  Other
Archy GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 28 <1852> Mississippi  Male  Son
Archy GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 5 <1875> Mississippi  Male  Son
Ben GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 55 <1825> Alabama  Male  Self

Betsy GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 50 <1830> Alabama  Female  Wife
Betsy GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 12 <1868> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Bettey GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 17 <1863> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Bud GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 3 <1877> Mississippi  Male  Son
Bunatt GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 46 <1834> Mississippi  Male  Self
Bush GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 7 <1873> Mississippi  Male  Son
Caroline GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 3 <1877> Mississippi  Male  Son
Charles GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 2 <1878> Mississippi  Male  GSon
Charley GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 9 <1871> Mississippi  Male  Son
Cinda GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 24 <1856> Mississippi  Female  Dau

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Cotton GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 22 <1858> Mississippi  Male  Other
Daniel GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 18 <1862> Mississippi  Male  Son
Davd GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 25 <1855> Mississippi  Male  Self
Della GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 10M <1879> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Dolly GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 8 <1872> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Ed GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 3 <1877> Mississippi  Male  Son
Edith GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 49 <1831> Virginia  Female  Wife
Elizabeth GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 20 <1860> Mississippi  Female  Other
Emily GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 35 <1845> Mississippi  Female  Wife
Emily GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 5 <1875> Mississippi  Female  GDau

Emily GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 4 <1876> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Erasmus GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 12 <1868> Mississippi  Male  Son
Fannie S. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 21 <1859> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Frank GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 26 <1854> Mississippi  Male  Self
George GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 3 <1877> Mississippi  Male  Son
George GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 2 <1878> Mississippi  Male  Other
Henry D. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 2 <1878> Mississippi  Male  Son
J. E. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 24 <1856> Mississippi  Male  Son
Jacob GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 25 <1855> Mississippi  Male  Other
Jacob GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 6 <1874> Mississippi  Male  Son

James S. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 17 <1863> Mississippi  Male  Son
Jas. M. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 57 <1823> Alabama  Male  Self
Jennie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 20 <1860> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Jennie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 80 <1800> South Carolina  Female  Mother
Jenny GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 20 <1860> Mississippi  Female  Other
Jerry GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 61 <1819> Virginia  Male  Self
Jessee C. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 22 <1858> Mississippi  Female  Dau
John GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 60 <1820> Alabama  Male  Self
John GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 4 <1876> Mississippi  Male  Other
John GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 6 <1874> Mississippi  Male  Nephew

John GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 14 <1866> Mississippi  Male  Son
John GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 14 <1866> Mississippi  Male  Other
Julia GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 30 <1850> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Julia GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 1 <1879> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Katie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 3 <1877> Mississippi  Female  GDau
L. H. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 29 <1851> Mississippi  Female  SDau
Lewis GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 23 <1857> Mississippi  Male  Son
Lilly GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 7 <1873> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Lou GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 19 <1861> Mississippi  Female  Wife
Lou GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 14 <1866> Mississippi  Female  Dau

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Lou GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 7 <1873> Mississippi  Female  Dau
M. B. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 46 <1834> Alabama  Female  Self
M. J. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 23 <1857> Mississippi  Female  Self
Margaret GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 39 <1841> Alabama  Female  Wife
Mariah GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 6 <1874> Mississippi  Female  Other
Mariah GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 10 <1870> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Martha GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 5 <1875> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Mary GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 14 <1866> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Mary GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 5 <1875> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Mary E. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 20 <1860> Mississippi  Female  Dau

Mary J. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 12 <1868> Mississippi  Female  Other
Mollie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 13 <1867> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Moses GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 63 <1817> South Carolina  Male  Self
Moses GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 52 <1828> Alabama  Male  Self
Moses GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 9 <1871> Mississippi  Male  Son
Nancy GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 4 <1876> Mississippi  Female  Other
Nellie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 15 <1865> Mississippi  Female  SDau
Norcis GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 8 <1872> Mississippi  Female  GDau
Pard GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 55 <1825> Alabama  Male  Self Race: Black
Paul GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 5 <1875> Mississippi  Male  Son

Peter GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 7 <1873> Mississippi  Male  GSon
Phil GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 55 <1825> AL Male  Self Race: Black
Philis GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 40 <1840> Alabama  Female  Wife
Rachel GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 18 <1862> Mississippi  Female  Other
Rose GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 20 <1860> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Rosie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 16 <1864> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Sallie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 18 <1862> Mississippi  Female  GDau
Sallie GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 1 <1879> Mississippi  Female  GDau
Sarah GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 10 <1870> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Sarah GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 12 <1868> Mississippi  Female  Dau

Sawny GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 25 <1855> Mississippi  Male  Son
Soliman GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 13 <1867> Mississippi  Male  Son
Solm GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 14 <1866> Mississippi  Male  Other
Sophia GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 40 <1840> Mississippi  Female  Wife
Susan GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 49 <1831> Alabama  Female W Mar Wife
Susan E. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 50 <1830> North Carolina  Female  Wife
Susan M. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 18 <1862> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Thomas GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 10 <1870> Mississippi  Male  Son
Toad GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 9 <1871> Mississippi  Male  Son
W. W. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 26 <1854> Mississippi  Male  Son

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Wash GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 12 <1868> Mississippi  Male B Sing GSon
Will GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 2 <1878> Mississippi  Male  Other
Willie P. GIVHAN Pontotoc, MS 18 <1862> Mississippi  Female  Dau
Isaac GIVHAN Precinct 1, Fort Bend, TX 42 <1838> Georgia  Male Self Race: Black
Leonard GIVHAN Precinct 1, Fort Bend, TX 16 <1864> Texas  Male  Son
Sealy GIVHAN Precinct 1, Fort Bend, TX 50 <1830> Alabama  Female  Wife

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M. These are copies of some of my correspondence with Ms. Carol Rackley and others

Joseph P Givhan (retired) Martin's Station Dallas County, Alabama
 
as per "Directory of Alabama Physicians 1886" compiled by Patsy Page cr 1995, copy in Bluebonnet Library, East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana
 
I xeroxed a page of the 1860 Alabama Census Index...some of them transcribed Girhan, Givan, Given, Givens, Givon etc....that sure which one, if any,  is Joseph P. Givhan.  I can't remember if you found him in 1860 census or not. 
 
Best regards,
 
Katherine Hill

Rackley <c n r a c k 8 0 @ o n e c a l l i n c . c o m> wrote:
 

 
----- Original Message -----
From: E d G i v h a  n @ a o l . c o m
To: c n r a c k 8 0 @ o n e c a l l i n c . c o m
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: Joseph Philip Givhan

He received his medical degree from the Alabama Medical School in Birmingham in the 1870s. This was the predecessor of the Medical School in Mobile. I have documentation of this. Let me know if you want copies.
      Ed

Hi,
I am a Dallas County, AL, Givhan; and I correspond with Carol Rackley.
I will be 65 on 9/19/2005; I was born 9/19/1940.

My g-g grandfather Jacob Givhan married Mary Holmes, daughter of Anderson Holmes.
I own a farm in south Perry County, AL - site of the Holmes Cemetery where Anderson Holmes, Jacob Givhan and wife Mary Holmes are buried.
 
My ancestry:

Philip Givhan -
Job Philip Givhan -
Jacob Givhan -
Anderson Holmes Givhan -
Walter Pope Givhan -
John Anderson Givhan -
(me) John Brandon Givhan; my wife: Martha Elizabeth James Givhan -
(my children): John Anderson Givhan II and Endsley Elizabeth Givhan Bolen -
(my grandson: John Bruce Bolen, born 11/6/2003

Sincerely,
John Brandon Givhan
1009 Stratford Ct
Andalusia, AL 36420
334 222 2929
ol_copter_pilot120 at yahoo dot com

From: "Rackley" <cnrack82 at onecallinc dot com>
Date: Sat Oct 08, 2005  10:20:32 AM US/Mountain
To: "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Minnie Givhan

This info would have been sent much sooner, but I...could not get on the internet till yesterday.  

In going through some papers sent to me before his death last year by Dr. Edgar G. Givhan III, Montgomery, Ala., great-grandson of Dr. Joseph Philip and Mary Holmes Givhan (twin sister of Martha "Mattie" Holmes Timberlake), I found that he had listed a wedding invitation from Dr. and Mrs. Joseph P. Givhan to the marriage of Joseph R. Hill and their daughter, Minerva (Minnie) Givhan February 17, 1889.

In the 1920 census, they are living in Gulfport, MS. with one daughter, Jane, age 24. I could not find Joseph's occupation on the entry, but he was 60 years old and was born in Georgia. I have been unable to locate them in the 1930 census. In a previous letter to you, I had related that I had found a record of her married name and that they later lived in Gulfport and either New Mexico or Mexico. At about that time (early 1900s), some of her cousins moved to Mexico. If she and Joseph did move there, tracing them would be difficult if not impossible.

In my last communication with Edgar, he thought the "Mrs. Holmes" in your album was probably Mrs. Jesse Holmes, mother of Minnie and Mattie. Jesse and Frances Whitlock Holmes owned a large farm in Perry County, AL.  In the years between 1830-1860, several descendants of Anderson Holmes, a prominent lawyer and judge from SC, married descendants of Philip Givhan, a plantation owner from Givhan's Ferry, Colleton Co., SC, whose children were early settlers of Dallas and Lowndes Counties in AL.  There were some instances where cousins married each other.

That is all the information I have that concerns your search.  Hope this helps.

Carol  Rackley

O. Photo of an 1869 Dallas Co., AL, tax receipt, signed by James Timberlake, County Tax Collector

P.