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Charles Gwin

and
Elisabeth (nee unknown)
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Sources:

1. Our first and only source to start was the 1880 U.S. Census of Precinct 8, Collin Co., TX (see below). We are looking for the children and other descendants of William Gwin (oldest son of Isham and Mary Canterbury Gwin) and his wife Susanah Beard. We believe we have found this William in the 1830 U.S. Census of Dallas Co., AL, and assuming that the ages for that census are correct, then William's and Susanah's second son in 1830 was born between 1825 and 1830 in Alabama. Matching this description perfectly in 1880 is this Carles Gwin, whose data from 1880 we have used to start this page as a likely candidate to be William and Susanah's son.

2. In September 2007 we found this family first in the 1870 Census of Grayson Co., TX (see below), then in the 1860 Census of Angelina Co., TX, and finally in the 1850 Census of Choctaw Co., AL, adding several more family members.

3. Then on 14 Sep 2007 we found three other Gwin families in the 1850 census of Choctaw Co., AL, living just minutes from this Charles, the ages of the husbands of each matching perfectly with the ages of the sons in William's and Susanna's family in the 1930 census!

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Outline of the Family So Far: Our Theory




1.00--(unk., but could be William) Gwin, b. TN (per 1880 census); m. unk. (but could be Susana Beard, b. VA, per 1880 census);

2.00--Charles Gwin, b. ca. 1821-22 in AL [age 29 in 1850]; [age 39 in 1860]; [age 49 in 1870]; [listed as Carles, age 58, in 1880]; d. unk.; m. Elisabeth (nee unk., b. ca. 1824 [age 47 in 1870]; [age 56 in 1880]; d. unk.); at least 2 ch.;

3.01--Mary Jane Gwin, b. ca. 1843 [age 7 in 1850]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.;

3.01--Anne E. Gwin, b. ca. 1847 [age 3 in 1850]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.;

3.03--Elijah H. Gwin, b. ca. 1849 [age 1 in 1850]; [age 21 in 1870]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.;

3.04--James F. Gwin, b. ca. 1851-52 [age 8 in 1860]; [age 19 in 1870]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.;

3.05--Martha Gwin, b. ca. 1856-57 [age 3 in 1860]; [age 14 in 1870]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.;

3.06--Charles M. Gwin, b. ca. 1858-59 [age 1 in 1860]; [age 12 in 1870]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.;

3.07--George W. Gwin, b. ca. 1861 [age 9 in 1870]; [age 19 in 1880]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.;

3.08--Sarah M. Gwin, b. ca. 1864 [age 7 in 1870]; [age 16 in 1880]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.;

2.00--(unk. brother to Carles) Gwin, b. unk.; d. unk.; m. unk. (nee unk., b. unk.; d. unk.); at least 1 ch.;

3.00--Johanna Gwin, b. ca. 1855 [25 in 1880, listed as Carles' niece]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.


Census Data


From the 15 Oct 1850 Census of Choctaw Co., AL
Res/fam
Name
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Occ.
Real Est.
POB
John M. Gwin Comments
---/173
Charles Guinn
m
29
[1821] Tuner?

AL
This is clearly our Charles Gwin, who, we hope, will turn out to be a son of William and Susanna Gwin, Isham's and Mary's oldest son. Living two doors away (fam. 171) is who I imagine to be his younger brother, James, while 8 doors away (fam. 165) is who I imagine to be their older brother, Francis (see next two census transcriptions).

Elizabeth Guinn f
27
[1823]

AL


Mary Jane Guinn f
7
[1843]

AL


Ann E. Guinn f
3
[1847]

MS


E. H. Guinn m
1
[1849]

AL
This will be Elijah H. Gwin.

From the 15 Oct 1850 Census of Choctaw Co., AL
Res/fam
Name
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Occ.
Real Est.
POB
John M. Gwin Comments
---/171
James A. Guinn
m
22
[1828] Planter
100
AL
This must be the family of the younger brother of Charles.

Nancy Guinn
f
23
[1827]

SC


Manerva Guinn
f
3
[1847]

AL


From the 15 Oct 1850 Census of Choctaw Co., AL
Res/fam
Name
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Occ.
EstateVal.
Real
POB
John M. Gwin Comments
---/165
Francis A. Guinn
m
38
[1812]
miller
2000
AL
This must be the family of the older brother of Charles. And, as he reports here, he is a miller! If Francis is William's son, then Francis' grandfather ISHAM was also reported to be a miller, back in Tennessee!

Mary B. Guinn
40
[1810]

NC


Sarah A. Guinn
16
[1834]

AL

Angeline Guinn
14
[1836]

AL

Charles Guinn
11
[1839]

AL

Rewben Guinn
9
[1841]

AL This must be Reuben.

Jesse Guinn
6
[1844]

AL

From the 30 Sep 1850 Census of Choctaw Co., AL
Res/fam
Name
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Occ.
EstateVal.
Real
POB
John M. Gwin Comments
---/17
W. Guinn
m
40
[1810]
brick mason
3000
AL
Aha. Another Guinn, who looks like he, too, could be a son of William and Susanna.

Jane Guinn f
30
[1820]

TN


F. H. Guinn m
16
[1834] laborer

AL


Rebecca J. Guinn f
8
[1842]

AL

David A. Guinn m
6
[1844]

AL

Margaret A. Guinn f
4
[1846]

AL

Thomas W. Guinn m
2
[1848]

AL

Comparing the 1830 Census for William's and Susanna's kids
to these four from Choctaw Co., AL, in the
1850 Census:

1830 Census
1850 Census John M. Gwin Comments


Not listed in 1830.
W. Guinn

1810

Suppose this son were already married and out of the house in 1830; he would then be the eldest son but NOT PRESENT on the 1830 census of William's and Susanna's home!

These are the only four Gwin families in the entire county of Choctaw in 1850.

There are also two Beard families: #595 and 598.

4.01--(son) Gwin, b. betw. 1810 and 1815--age 15-20

Francis A. Guinn

1812

4.02--(daughter) Gwin, b. betw. 1815 and 1820--age 10-15



4.03--(daughter) Gwin, b. betw. 1815 and 1820--age 10-15



4.04--(son) Gwin, b. betw. 1820 and 1825--age 5-10

Charles Guinn

1821-2

4.05--(daughter) Gwin, b. betw. 1820 and 1825--age 5-10



4.06--(daughter) Gwin, b. betw. 1820 and 1825--age 5-10



4.07--(daughter) Gwin, b. betw. 1820 and 1825--age 5-10



4.08--(son) Gwin, b. betw. 1825 and 1830--age 0-5

James A. Guinn

1828

4.09--(daughter) Gwin, b. betw. 1825 and 1830--age 0-5



4.10--(daughter) Gwin, b. betw. 1825 and 1830--age 0-5



4.11--(daughter) Gwin, b. betw. 1825 and 1830--age 0-5



4.12--Thomas F. Gwin, b. (1822? 1828? 1831?) in Dallas Co., AL; d. (1902?); m.  Mrs. Nancy (Holman) Green (b. __; d. after 1910 census); no ch. (1 known stepch.) [It was Jan's discovery of this son that confirmed Susannah's maiden name as Beard/Baird (see item 13 below).]


From the 13 Jul 1860 Census of Homer, The First District, Angelina
Co., TX
Res/fam
Name
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Occ.
EstateVal.
Real/Pers
POB
John M. Gwin Comments
519/508
Charles Guinn
m
39
[1821]
wheelwright
400/400
AL
Having found this family first in 1880 and working our way backward through the censuses, we found them again in 1870 and now in 1860. That Charles is a wheelwright is VERY encouraging, as John Gwin (my own ggg-grandpa and the brother of the William who is believed to be the father of this Charles) was also a wheelwright! If Charles is indeed the son of William (and thus the nephew of John), having been born in Alabama, he could well have apprenticed under his uncle John!

Lizzie Guinn f
37
[1823]

AL

Anna E. Guinn f
12
[1848]

AL Good! The discovery of this daughter adds new information, as she did not appear in the family in 1870. She could have died by 1870, but I believe it to be more likely that she had married by then and was living elsewhere.

Eliza H. Guinn f
10
[1850]

AL Oh my. This is Elijah H. Gwin, who, I can imagine, was likely not in the room when the census taker--probably somewhat hard of hearing--mistook Charles' and Lizzie's pronunciation of "Elijah" for "Eliza".

James F. Guinn m
8
[1852]

AL

Martha Guinn f
3
[1857]

TX


Charles Guinn f (sic)
1
[1859]

TX



From the 26 Sep 1870 Census of Pct. No. 4, Kentucky Town, Grayson Co., TX
Res/fam
Name
Race
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Occ.
POB
John M. Gwin Comments
386/430
Charles Guinn
w
m
49
[1821]
laborer
AL
This almost has to be the same family as we found in the 1880 census that started this hunt, as the first names, places of birth, and ages for Charles, Elizabeth, George, and Sarah all coincide.

Elizabeth Guinn
w
f
47
[1823] keeps house
AL

Elijah H. Guinn w
m
21
[1849] laborer
AL


James F. Guinn w
m
19
[1851] laborer
AL


Martha Guinn w
f
14
[1856]
TX


Charles M. Guinn w
m
12
[1858]
TX


George W. Guinn w
m
9
[1861]
TX


Sarah M. Guinn w
f
7
[1863]
TX


From the 14 Jun 1880 Census of Pct. No. 8, Collin Co., TX


Res/fam
Name
Race
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Relat.
to HoH
Occ.
POB
FPOB
MPOB
John M. Gwin Comments
259/259
Carles Gwin
w
m
58
[1822]
head
farmer
AL
TN
VA
"Carles" (Charles) is theorized here to be the son of William and Susanna Beard Gwin and grandson of Isham and Mary Canterbury Gwin.

Elisabeth Gwin
w
f
56
[1824] wife
house-
keeper
AL
NC
NC


George Gwin
w
m
19
[1861] son
at home
TX
AL AL

Sarah Gwin
w
f
16
[1864] dau
at home
TX
AL AL

Johana Gwin
w
f
25
[1855] niece

AL
AL
AL
Johana may be a clue and a key to uncovering yet another child of William and Susana.


From the 14 Jun 1880 Census of Pct. No. 8, Collin Co., TX
Res/fam
Name
Race
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Relat.
to HoH
Occ.
POB
FPOB
MPOB
John M. Gwin Comments
261/261
Elijah
w
m
30
[1850] head
farmer
AL
AL
AL
This must be our Elijah H. Gwin, as he is living two doors down the road from his parents, Charles and Elizabeth.

Mary
w
f
20
[1860] wife
housekeeper
MO
TN
TN


Minnie
w
f
4
[1876] dau

TX
AL
MO






From 1860 Census of Choctaw Co., AL:
John H Beard Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, ChoctawAL 30 abt 1830 Alabama Male
Wm C Beard Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, ChoctawAL 5 abt 1855 Alabama Male
James M Beard Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, ChoctawAL 3 abt 1857 Alabama Male
Virginia L Beard Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, ChoctawAL 2 abt 1858 Alabama Female
From 1860 Census of Choctaw Co., AL:
Sarah A Beard Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, ChoctawAL 23 abt 1837 Alabama Female
Plasant Beard Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, ChoctawAL 18 abt 1842 Alabama Male
From 1860 Census of Choctaw Co., AL:
Wiley P Guinn Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, ChoctawAL 27 abt 1833 Alabama Male
Joana J Guinn Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, ChoctawAL 6 abt 1854 Alabama Female
Mary J Guinn Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, ChoctawAL 4 abt 1856 Alabama Female
Alfred H Guinn Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, ChoctawAL 2 abt 1858 Alabama Male
From 1860 Census of Angelina Co., TX:
Marth A Guinn District 1, AngelinaTX 3 abt 1857 Texas Female
Charles Guinn District 1, AngelinaTX 1 abt 1859 Texas Female
James W Guinn District 2, AngelinaTX 56 abt 1804 Tennessee Male
Charlotte Guinn District 2, AngelinaTX 48 abt 1812 North Carolina Female
James K Guinn District 2, AngelinaTX 24 abt 1836 North Carolina Male
Catherine Guinn District 2, AngelinaTX 20 abt 1840 North Carolina Female
Henry M Guinn District 2, AngelinaTX 17 abt 1843 North Carolina Male
From 1860 Census of Angelina Co., TX:
James W Guinn District 2, AngelinaTX 56 abt 1804 Tennessee Male
Charlotte Guinn District 2, AngelinaTX 48 abt 1812 North Carolina Female
James K Guinn District 2, AngelinaTX 24 abt 1836 North Carolina Male
Catherine Guinn District 2, AngelinaTX 20 abt 1840 North Carolina Female
Henry M Guinn District 2, AngelinaTX 17 abt 1843 North Carolina Male
Bolk F. Guinn District 2, AngelinaTX 13 abt 1847 Alabama Male
Joseph Sawyer
District 2, AngelinaTX 84 
ca. 1776
Alabama Male





Guinns in the 1860 census
Wm Guinn Beat 10, Anderson, TX 35 abt 1825 Tennessee Male
L M Guinn Beat 10, Anderson, TX 30 abt 1830 Tennessee Female
S M Guinn Beat 10, Anderson, TX 10 abt 1850 Texas Female
M C Guinn Beat 10, Anderson, TX 9 abt 1851 Texas Female
J M Guinn Beat 10, Anderson, TX 4 abt 1856 Texas Female
Charles Guinn District 1, Angelina, TX 39 abt 1821 Alabama Male
Lizzie Guinn District 1, Angelina, TX 37 abt 1823 Alabama Female
Anna E Guinn District 1, Angelina, TX 12 abt 1848 Alabama Female
Eliza H Guinn District 1, Angelina, TX 10 abt 1850 Alabama Female
James F Guinn District 1, Angelina, TX 8 abt 1852 Alabama Male
Marth A Guinn District 1, Angelina, TX 3 abt 1857 Texas Female
Charles Guinn District 1, Angelina, TX 1 abt 1859 Texas Female
James W Guinn District 2, Angelina, TX 56 abt 1804 Tennessee Male
Charlotte Guinn District 2, Angelina, TX 48 abt 1812 North Carolina Female
James K Guinn District 2, Angelina, TX 24 abt 1836 North Carolina Male
Catherine Guinn District 2, Angelina, TX 20 abt 1840 North Carolina Female
Henry M Guinn District 2, Angelina, TX 17 abt 1843 North Carolina Male
Bolk f Guinn District 2, Angelina, TX 13 abt 1847 Alabama Male
Robt H Guinn Beat 2, Cherokee, TX 38 abt 1822 Tennessee Male
Sarah J Guinn Beat 2, Cherokee, TX 33 abt 1827 Georgia Female
Heflen s Guinn Beat 2, Cherokee, TX 13 abt 1847 Texas Male
Philleo p Guinn Beat 2, Cherokee, TX 11 abt 1849 Texas Male
C A M S Guinn Beat 2, Cherokee, TX 7 abt 1853 Texas Female
T B S Guinn Beat 2, Cherokee, TX 5 abt 1855 Texas Male
R W T Guinn Beat 2, Cherokee, TX 3 abt 1857 Texas Male
James R Guinn Beat 2, Cherokee, TX 1 6.12 abt 1858 Texas Male
Geo W Guinn Colorado, TX 41 abt 1819 Georgia Male
Caroline Guinn Colorado, TX 28 abt 1832 Florida Female
Geo R Guinn Colorado, TX 14 abt 1846 Texas Male
Amanda T Guinn Colorado, TX 12 abt 1848 Texas Female
Wm P Guinn Colorado, TX 10 abt 1850 Texas Male
Sarah E Guinn Colorado, TX 7 abt 1853 Texas Female
Lucy Guinn Colorado, TX 4 abt 1856 Texas Female
Henry F Guinn Colorado, TX 3.12 abt 1860 Texas Male
James F Guinn Colorado, TX 34 abt 1826 Georgia Male
Jane E Guinn Colorado, TX 34 abt 1826 Georgia Female
Sapronia Guinn Colorado, TX 11 abt 1849 Alabama Female
James F Guinn Colorado, TX 9 abt 1851 Alabama Male
M A Guinn Colorado, TX 6 abt 1854 Alabama Female
Martha J Guinn Colorado, TX 1 abt 1859 Alabama Female
John P Guinn Colorado, TX 42 abt 1818 Georgia Male
Martha Guinn Colorado, TX 22 abt 1838 Georgia Female
Emily J Guinn Colorado, TX 8 abt 1852 Alabama Female
John F Guinn Colorado, TX 6 abt 1854 Alabama Male
D A Guinn Colorado, TX 3 abt 1857 Alabama Female
Lee O Guinn Precinct 2, Dallas, TX 30 abt 1830 Tennessee Male
Elizabeth J O Guinn Precinct 2, Dallas, TX 21 abt 1839 Tennessee Female
John R Guinn Johnson, TX 18 abt 1842 Missouri Male
Wm Guinn Kaufman, Kaufman, TX 29 abt 1831   Male
Elizabeth Guinn Kaufman, Kaufman, TX 27 abt 1833 Louisiana Female
Matilda E Guinn Kaufman, Kaufman, TX 9 abt 1851 Louisiana Female
Martha J Guinn Kaufman, Kaufman, TX 8 abt 1852 Louisiana Female
Young J Guinn Kaufman, Kaufman, TX 5 abt 1855 Louisiana Male
Sarah D Guinn Kaufman, Kaufman, TX 3 abt 1857 Texas Female
Louisa Guinn Kaufman, Kaufman, TX 4.12 abt 1860 Texas Female
Babe Guinn Kaufman, Kaufman, TX 4.12 abt 1860 Texas Male
D T Guinn Lampasas, TX 40 abt 1820 South Carolina Male
Sarah Guinn Lampasas, TX 14 abt 1846 Georgia Female
Davis W F Guinn Lampasas, TX 13 abt 1847 Georgia Male
Nancey s Guinn Lampasas, TX 10 abt 1850 Georgia Female
Nancey Guinn Lampasas, TX 55 abt 1805 South Carolina Female
J W Guinn Lampasas, TX 30 abt 1830 South Carolina Male
Mary Guinn Lampasas, TX 26 abt 1834 Tennessee Female
Florentine Guinn Lampasas, TX 7 abt 1853 Georgia Female
Adda Guinn Lampasas, TX 5 abt 1855 Texas Female
Nancy Guinn Lampasas, TX 3 abt 1857 Texas Female
Mary Guinn Lampasas, TX 1 abt 1859 Texas Female
Jesse Guinn Navarro, TX 16 abt 1844 Mississippi Male
Sarah Guinn Sabine, Van Zandt, TX 75 abt 1785 South Carolina Female
William Guinn West Side Cahaba River, Bibb, AL 39 abt 1821 Alabama Male
Rosanna Guinn West Side Cahaba River, Bibb, AL 37 abt 1823 Alabama Female
Mary A E Guinn West Side Cahaba River, Bibb, AL 16 abt 1844 Alabama Female
William S Guinn West Side Cahaba River, Bibb, AL 12 abt 1848 Alabama Male
John W Guinn West Side Cahaba River, Bibb, AL 10 abt 1850 Alabama Male
Rufus K Guinn West Side Cahaba River, Bibb, AL 7 abt 1853 Alabama Male
Lucy M Guinn West Side Cahaba River, Bibb, AL 4 abt 1856 Alabama Female
Isham M Guinn West Side Cahaba River, Bibb, AL 2 abt 1858 Alabama Male
C O Guinn Precinct 14, Butler, AL 40 abt 1820   Male
C O Guinn Precinct 14, Butler, AL 30 abt 1830   Female
M O Guinn Precinct 14, Butler, AL 8 abt 1852   Female
J O Guinn Precinct 14, Butler, AL 5 abt 1855   Male
Mary A Guinn Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, Choctaw, AL 68 abt 1792 Virginia Female
Wiley P Guinn Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, Choctaw, AL 27 abt 1833 Alabama Male
Alletha A e Guinn Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, Choctaw, AL 23 abt 1837 Mississippi Female
Joana J Guinn Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, Choctaw, AL 6 abt 1854 Alabama Female
Mary J Guinn Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, Choctaw, AL 4 abt 1856 Alabama Female
Alfred H Guinn Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, Choctaw, AL 2 abt 1858 Alabama Male
William Guinn Middle Division, Fayette, AL 35 abt 1825 Alabama Male
Martha Guinn Middle Division, Fayette, AL 25 abt 1835 South Carolina Female
Rhoda Guinn Middle Division, Fayette, AL 70 abt 1790 South Carolina Female
James Guinn Middle Division, Fayette, AL 25 abt 1835 Alabama Male
Malisa Guinn Middle Division, Fayette, AL 20 abt 1840 Alabama Female
Mary Guinn Eastern Subdivision, Franklin, AL 45 abt 1815 Tennessee Female
Isham P Guinn Eastern Subdivision, Franklin, AL 19 abt 1841 Alabama Male
Candisay Guinn Eastern Subdivision, Franklin, AL 14 abt 1846 Alabama Female
Nancy E Guinn Eastern Subdivision, Franklin, AL 13 abt 1847 Alabama Female
Mary F Guinn Eastern Subdivision, Franklin, AL 10 abt 1850 Alabama Female
John Guinn Western Division, Franklin, AL 40 abt 1820 Tennessee Male
Elisa Guinn Western Division, Franklin, AL 35 abt 1825 Tennessee Female
S L Guinn Boligee, Greene, AL 26 abt 1834 Alabama Male






Some Welcome Communication:




From: sgrandmasemailataoldotcom
Date: December 4, 2007
To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com
Subject: Re: Geneology for Charles Gwin (Guinn)

Hi John,
Regarding your information on Charles Gwin (Guinn), he is my great-grandfather.  His wife was Elizabeth Husband and his daughter (Sarah Minerva Guinn) was my grandmother.  In our family records we have the surname spelled Guinn.  From family recollections we know that he was a farmer and he also did beautiful cabinetry/woodwork.  Also we have a picture of Charles and Elizabeth; unfortunately, we haven't yet converted it to a digital format.
We appreciate the background information you have compiled.
The page we were referring to is gwincarleselizabeth1880texas.htm
Our Charles Guinn is half French and half Cherokee Indian.  He was married to Elizabeth Husband(s) and lived in Angelina County in East Texas.  We have some records showing a middle initial of "M" and some showing a middle initial of "F".  At this time, we believe the "F" to be correct.  We believe Charles M to be the son of Charles F and Elizabeth.  We have census information showing their children as Mary Jane, Ann, Elijah, James, Martha, Charles M., George, and Sarah M (my grandmother).
We've begun posting this information on OneWorldTree through www.Ancestry.com.
Thank you for any additional information you can provide to us.  Please send your responses to both me (sgrandmasemailataoldotcom) and my granddaughter Sarah (sbassukatearthlinkdotnet).
Sincerely,
Jessie Pearce


Hi Jessie!
Thanks for sending this! IF your Charles Guinn and my Charles Gwin are the same person, and IF I have understood the material you sent me, then your "Gwin" line looks something like this:

1.00--Richard Gwin m. Sarah Chesley
2.00--Isham Gwin m. Mary Canterbury
3.03--William Gwin m. Susanna Beard
4.00--Charles Gwin m. Elizabeth Husband
5.00--Sarah Minerva Gwin m. Jessie's grandfather (Here's a very interesting note: Sarah Minerva's [possible] grandfather, William Gwin, had several sisters, the youngest two of whom were named Sarah--the older--and Minerva--the baby.)
6.00--Jessie's parents
7.00--Jessie Pearce

HOWEVER, IF you are certain that your Charles was half French and half Cherokee, then I don't see how thay can be the same person, as I am VERY confident that my data on William and up are right. In that case, if this is your Charles, he can't be mine. Does that make sense?

Best to you always,
In Jesus,
John