Ancestors and Descendants of
Wiley
Preston Guinn
and
Aletha Hough
|
SOURCES:
1. In October 2008,
Mary Lee
contacted me concerning this Wiley Preston, her gg-grandfather.
While we can't yet connect him to my line, I'd run into his name
often in my Alabama searches, and our mutual interest prompted
this page for which she has supplied most of this initial data.
2. The various census reports
continue to provide this second source of information.
3. In June 2009, a relative who wishes to remain anonymous has
provided data concerning
eleven ancestors of Wiley
Preston Guinn.
4. Following up on data from Source #3, I went back to
Genforum.com and found a
Marken Frazier Gerhardt who claims descent from Charles
and (now a 12th ancestor)
Elizabeth Husbands Guinn through their
oldest daughter Mary Jane Guinn who married Charles Frazier.
5.
Jeff
Eaton contacted us in Feb 2012 regarding the
descendancy
of his wife from Wiley Preston Guinn.
-- John M.
Gwin
jmcdgwin@zianet.com
20.00--unknown Guinn,
21.00--unknown Guinn,
22.00--Charles Guinn,
m. Elizabeth
Husbands
|
20.00--James Cole m. Averiler Daniel
21.00--Wm. Fitzgerald, Sr. m. Rebecca Irby
21.00--Jester Cocke
m. Sarah
Cole
22.00--James Fitzgerald,
b. 1760 Amelia Co., VA;
d. 17 Apr 1817 Madison Co., AL; m. bef. 1783 to Rebecca Cocke
|
23.00--Henry Guinn m.
Mary Ann Fitzgerald,
b. ca. 1792 in VA)
[John
M. Gwin Note--22 Jun 2009: Today a
relative who wishes to remain anonymous contacted us with
the [undocumented] names of these [alleged]
parents of Wiley P. Guinn and with information about a
Genforum posting which further claimed Henry's father to
be a Charles Guinn.]
24.00--Wiley Preston Guinn,
b. Dec. 28, 1832
in
Choctaw Co., AL; d. 9 May 1892 in Cooke
Co., TX; bd. Valley
View Cem., Valley View, Cooke Co., TX (headstone not
found)--
Find A Grave Memorial#
34795736; m1. Aletha A. E. Hough
(b. 1836; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 5 ch.;
wd.? div.?; m2. M. E. Kelley
(b. ca. 1854; d. unk.; bd. unk.);
unk. ch.
[Since there are
two Wiley P Guinns living in Alabama in the 1860
census (see below), this is possibly ours (50/50 chance?)
listed as W. P. Guynn, 20, farmer b. in AL, in the 4
Nov 1850
census of Clarke Co., AL, and lvg. as a single man
in the home of a Ladd family.]
[listed as Wiley P. Guinn, age 27, in the 4 Sep 1860
census of Bladon Spgs. P. O., Choctaw Co., AL]
[listed as W. P. Gwinn, 46, in the 1880
census of Grayson Co., TX]
[listed as
Aletha A. E. Guinn, age 23, in the 4 Sep 1860
census of Bladon Spgs. P. O., Choctaw Co., AL]
[listed as M. E. Gwinn, 26, in the 1880
census of Grayson Co., TX]
[Mary Lee Note:
At
some point in the marriage of Wiley Preston Guinn and Aletha
(Hough) Guinn, Aletha deserted her husband and their
children. Wiley remarried later and raised his children and
ended up in Texas, where he died. He is buried in the Valley
View Cemetery, Cooke Co., Texas. It is unknown what happened
to Aletha Hough or where/when she died. Wiley Preston
Guinn's second wife's last name was KELLEY. Not much info on
her is known yet.]
TWO WILEY
P. GUINNS, about the same age, living in adjacent Alabama
counties in 1860,
and both having moved west in later censuses.
|
Wiley P. Guinn and Aletha Hough and
M. E. Kelley
Here are our Wiley P. and Aletha in 1860 and (with
second wife M. E.) in 1880. (They seem to be
hiding from us in 1870, however.)
|
Wiley P. Guinn and Hanna Robinson
Clearly these two Wiley P. Guinn families are the same as
each other, yet they are not ours.
So who are they? |
| Name: |
Wiley
P Guinn |
| Age: |
27 |
| Birth Year: |
abt 1833 |
| Birthplace: |
Alabama |
| Home in 1860: |
Townships 9, 10, 11, and 12, Choctaw, Alabama |
| Gender: |
Male |
| Post Office: |
Bladon Springs |
| Household Members: |
|
|
| Name: |
W.
P.
Gwinn |
| Age: |
46 |
| Birth Year: |
abt 1834 |
| Birthplace: |
Alabama |
| Home in
1800: |
Grayson, Texas |
| Race: |
White |
| Gender: |
Male |
| Relation to Head of House: |
Self (Head) |
| Marital Status: |
Married |
| Spouse's Name: |
M. E. Gwinn |
| Father's Birthplace: |
Alabama |
| Mother's Birthplace: |
Alabama |
Household
Members: |
|
|
| Name: |
Wiley P Gwyn |
| Age in 1860: |
31 |
| Birth Year: |
abt 1829 |
| Birthplace: |
Alabama |
| Home in 1860: |
Clarke, Alabama |
| Gender: |
Male |
| Post Office: |
Grove Hill |
| Household Members: |
|
|
| Name: |
W
P Guinn |
| Age in 1870: |
41 |
| Birth Year: |
abt 1829 |
| Birthplace: |
Alabama |
| Home in 1870: |
Sugarloaf, Sebastian, Arkansas |
| Race: |
White |
| Gender: |
Male |
| Post Office: |
Sugarloaf |
| Household Members: |
|
|
|
At
first glance, one
would think that the marriage record below refers to
the couple on the right, above. And that thought
would be correct. However, closer scrutiny would
uncover the given name of the surety for that marriage
as that of Hough--which happens to be the maiden name
of the OTHER Wiley's wife! How's that?
What's going on here?
| From Alabama Marriages, 1809-1920
(Selected Counties) |
| Spouse 1: |
Wiley P. Gwynn |
| Spouse 2: |
Hanna
Robinson |
| Marriage Date: |
29 Sep 1852 |
| Marriage Place: |
Clarke |
| Surety/Perf. Name: |
Hough
Calhoun |
| OSPage: |
182 |
|
25.01-- Joanna I.
Guinn, b. 30 Dec 1854; d. 13 Jan 1913 at age
58; bd. Oaklawn
Cem., Decatur, Wise Co., TX--
Find A Grave Memorial# 44009721--she
is mistakenly listed on Findagrave as QUINN,
but her headstone's photo
is here which confirms she is Joanna GUINN;
m. E. A.
Parr
(b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least one ch.
DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[listed as Joana
I. Guinn, age 6, in the 4 Sep 1860
census of Bladon Spgs. P. O., Choctaw Co., AL]
26.00--Parr--Joanna's
gravestone photo not only confirms that here maiden name is
Guinn, it also makes clear that she and E. A. had at least one
child; its simple inscription is "MOTHER".
25.02-- Mary Jane
Guinn, b. 1857; d.
unk.; bd. unk.; m. Charles Jacob DeMoss (b. Feb 1860; d. 17
Dec 1933; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
[listed as Mary
J. Guinn, age 4, in the 4 Sep 1860
census of Bladon Spgs. P. O., Choctaw Co., AL]
[Jeff Eaton Note:
I
was reading through this web page, and noticed there was a
question of Wiley’s whereabouts in 1850. I attached a
scan of the 1850 Federal Census in Clark County, Alabama,
that lists a “W. P. Guynn”. My wife descends from this
family through Wiley’s daughter, Mary Jane. Jeff
Eaton, Monsoon66atsbcglobaldotnet]
26.00--
Mrs. Eaton's grandparent [PRIVATE]
27.00--
Mrs.
Eaton's parent
[PRIVATE]
25.03--Alfred Henry Guinn,
b. May 1858 in Choctaw Co., AL;
d. 1945 in Dallas Co., TX; bd. unk., but prob. in Dallas
Co., TX; m. 1883 to Martha Bell Farley (b. May 1858;
d. unk.; bd. unk.); 10 known ch. [Martha
reports 10 of 10 ch. lvg. in the 15 Apr
1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
[listed as
Alfred H. Guinn, age 2, in the 4 Sep 1860
census of Bladon Spgs. P. O., Choctaw Co., AL]
[age 42 in the Jun 1900
census of Jus. Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX];
[age 52 in the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
26.01--Nannie Bell Guinn,
b. Apr 1885 in Kerens, Navarro Co., TX;
d. 1957, Irving, Dallas Co., TX;
bd. unk.; m. Robert
F. Sims (b. ca. 1876;
d. betw. 1915 and 1920; bd. unk.) 3 ch.
[age 15 in the Jun 1900
census of Jus. Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX];
[does not
appear in Alfred's and Martha's home in the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX, and assumed
married and living elsewhere]
[age 34, in
the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
27.01--Robert L. Sims,
b. in TX ca. 1908; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.;
unk ch. DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE
[age 12 in the 2 Jan 1920
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
27.02--Hamer C.
Sims, b. in TX ca.
Jun 1911; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[age 8yr/7mo in the 2
Jan 1920
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
27.03--Martha
"Mattie" Sims, b. in TX ca.
Feb 1915; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[listed as "Mattie",
age 4yr/11mo, in the 2 Jan 1920
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
[age 14 in the Jun 1900
census of Jus. Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX];
[listed as
"Baker" age 23 and single, in the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX];
[age 33 in
the 2 Jan 1920
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
[listed as
Mandie Guinn, age 30, in the 2 Jan 1920
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
27.01--Eula Guinn,
b. ca. Sep 1911; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk
ch. DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE
[age 8yr/5mo in the 2
Jan 1920
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
27.02--Floyd Guinn,
b. ca. Nov 1913; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk
ch. DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE
[age 6yr/3mo in the 2
Jan 1920
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
27.03--Chester
Guinn, b. ca. Feb 1915; d. unk.;
bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[age 4yr/11mo in the 2
Jan 1920
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
27.04--Elmer Guinn,
b. ca. Feb 1917; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk
ch. DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE
[age 2yr/11mo in the 2
Jan 1920
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
27.05--Clady B.
Guinn, b. ca. Oct 1919; d. unk.;
bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[age 4mo in the 2 Jan 1920
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
26.03--Pearl Guinn,
b. Mar 1888, Dallas Co., TX;
d. 1968, Dallas, TX;
m. unk. (b. unk.; d. unk. bd. unk.) unk. ch.
DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[age 12 in the Jun 1900
census of Jus. Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX];
[listed as
"Pearl", age 21 and single, in the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
26.04--Harrison Rufus Guinn,
b. Mar 1890, Dallas, TX;
d. 1944, Corsicana, Navarro Co., TX;
bd. unk.; m. unk. (b. unk.; d. unk. bd. unk.) unk. ch.
DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[age 10 in the Jun 1900
census of Jus. Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX];
[does not
appear in Alfred's and Martha's home in the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX, and assumed
married and living elsewhere]
26.05--Rose Etta Guinn,
b. May 1891; d. 1961,
Borger, Hutchinson Co., TX;
bd.
Amarillo,
Potter
Co., TX; m. in 1909 in Navarro Co., TX, to Woodford Henry Irwin
(b. 1886 in TX/IN/TX; d. unk. bd. unk.); 5 ch.
[age 9 in the Jun 1900
census of Jus. Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX];
[does not
appear in Alfred's and Martha's home in the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX, and assumed
married and living elsewhere]
[listed as
Rosa Irwin, age 28, in the 7 Feb 1920
census of Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX]
[listed as
Rose E. Irwin, age 39 and b. TX/AL/KY, in the 5 Apr
1930
census of Pct. #3, Armstrong Co.,TX]
[listed as
Woodford Irwin, age 34 and b. TX/IN/TX, in the 7 Feb
1920
census of Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX]
[listed as
Henry W. Irwin, age 45 and b. TX/IN/TX(or IN), in
the 5 Apr 1930
census of Pct. #3, Armstrong Co.,TX]
|
Woodford Henry Irwin
| Birth: |
1885 |
| Death: |
Aug. 28,
1952 in Phillips, Hutchinson Co., TX |
Woodford Henry Irwin, 67, of 102 Ostrom St.,
Phillips, died suddenly at 9 a.m. today at
his home.
Irwin, a long time resident of Borger, was
retired. Survivors include, in addition to
his wife, Rose Etta Irwin; three sons, Henry
Lowell, Phillips; K.S., Amarillo, L.L.,
Pampa; one daughter, Mrs. E.R. Jones,
Borger; three brothers, Frank, Corsicana;
Tom, Stamford; and Clayton, Brownsville;
three sisters, Mrs. Clara Fortner, Richland;
Mrs. Florence McPherson, Tulsa, Okla.; and
Mrs. John Magness, Wortham, Tex.
Funeral arrangements are pending.
(Published in Borger News Herald,
August 28, 1952)
---------------------------------------------------------
Funeral services will be conducted Saturday
afternoon at 3 o'clock for W. H. Irwin, 67,
of 102 Ostrom Street, Phillips.
A resident of the area for the last 25
years, Irwin died at his home Thursday
morning after a heart attack.
The services will be in the Phillips
Methodist Church with the Rev. John English
officiating. Interment will be in the
Memorial Park Cem., Amarillo.
(Published in Borger News Herald,
August 29, 1952)
Family links:
Spouse: Rose
Etta Guinn Irwin (1891 - 1961)*
Child: Kirven
S. Irwin (1909 - 1999)*
|
| |
| Burial:
Mem.
Pk. Cem., Amarillo, Potter Co., TX--Find A
Grave Memorial# 74097848 |
|
27.01--Kirven S. Irwin,
b. 1909 (fr. tombstone);
d. 1999 (fr. tombstone);
bd. Plot: "Venetian Well" section,
Mem.
Pk. Cem., Amarillo, Potter Co., TX--
Find A Grave Memorial# 53426867;
m. Evelyn L. Jones
(b. 16 Apr 1914 in Clarendon, TX; d. 22 Jul 2009 in Amarillo,
TX; bd. Plot: "Venetian Well" section,
Mem.
Pk. Cem., Amarillo, Potter Co., TX--
Find A Grave Memorial# 39814385);
unk ch. DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE
[listed as Kirvin Irwin, age
10, in the 7 Feb 1920
census of Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX]
[listed as Kirwen S. Irwin,
age 20 and b. TX, in the 5 Apr 1930 census
of Pct. #3, Armstrong Co.,TX]
CYPRESS - Evelyn L. Irwin,
95, died July 22, 2009.
Memorial services will be at 2 p.m. Saturday in
Windwood Presbyterian Church. Graveside services will
be at 10 a.m. Tuesday in Memorial Park Cemetery in
Amarillo with the Rev. Charlie Jones, her longtime
former pastor, officiating. Arrangements are by
Kingwood Funeral Home.
Evelyn L. Irwin, beloved mother to four sons,
grandmother to seven grandchildren and
great-grandmother to seven great-grandchildren, was
born April 16, 1914, in Clarendon, where she met and
married her husband of 68 years, Kirven S. Irwin.
She displayed the "can-do," "make-do" or "do-without"
spirit that came from weathering two World Wars and
surviving the Great Depression. By her diligence, she
made the hard dirt and adverse growing conditions of
the Texas Panhandle produce fruits, vegetables and
flowers. Her pear preserves were a treat, and her
fried chicken can never be duplicated. But her real
artistry was with needle and thread. She could sew
anything she could see or imagine, from outfitting
herself and her children, to stitching Barbie clothes,
making canvas fishing floater rigs and even fashioning
her eldest granddaughter's wedding dress. She loved to
catch fish and was good at it. She's probably baiting
a hook with her husband right now.
The family would like to express deep appreciation for
the loving care given by the staff at Ainsley Courte
and devoted care by the staff and nurses at The
Heritage in Tomball.
She will be laid to rest beside her beloved husband.
They were longtime members of Second Baptist Church of
Amarillo.
Her parents, Charlie and Avie Rilla Jones; her
husband; a son, Mitchell; and a grandson, Alan,
preceded her in death.
Survivors include three sons, Vern and wife Betty and
Jerry and wife Kathy, all of Houston, and Terry and
wife Jo Helen of New Orleans. Evelyn was from a large
family of 12 children, with only her sister, Clarice
Hall, of Clarendon surviving.
Amarillo Globe-News,
July 24, 2009
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28.01--Mitchell D. Irwin,
b. 2 Jan 1933 in Donley Co., TX; d. bef. 2009 (preceded
mother in death); bd. unk.; m. unk.;
unk. ch. (orig. data fr. usgwarchives.net
website)
28.02--Vern Irwin, b. in
Donley Co., TX; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Betty (nee
unk.); unk. ch. (orig. data fr. Evelyn Jones Irwin's obit.)
28.03--Jerry Irwin, b. in
Donley Co., TX; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Kathy
(nee unk.); unk. ch. (orig. data fr. Evelyn Jones
Irwin's obit.)
28.04--Terry Irwin, b. in
Donley Co., TX; d. unk.; bd.
unk.; m. Jo Helen
(nee unk.); unk. ch. (orig. data fr. Evelyn Jones
Irwin's obit.)
27.02--Thella
Irwin, dau, b. ca. 1915;
d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[listed as Thella Irwin,
age 5, in the 7 Feb 1920 census of Pct. #2,
Navarro Co.,TX]
[listed as
Thella Irwin, age 15 and b. TX, in the 5 Apr 1930
census of Pct. #3, Armstrong Co.,TX]
27.03--Henry
Lowell Irwin, b. ca. Jan 1917;
d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[listed as Lowell Irwin,
age 3 y 2 m, in the 7 Feb 1920
census of Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX]
[listed as
Henry L. Irwin, age 13 and b. TX, in the 5 Apr 1930
census of Pct. #3, Armstrong Co.,TX]
27.04--Lionel
Irwin, b. ca. 1923; d.
unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[listed as
Loinel Irwin, age 7 and b. NM, in the 5 Apr 1930
census of Pct. #3, Armstrong Co.,TX]
27.05--Mr.
Irwin [PRIVATE]
28.00--Mary Lee,
CONTRIBUTOR [PRIVATE]
26.06--Joanna "Anna" "Josie" Guinn,
b. May 1892, Corsicana,
Navarro Co., TX;
d. 1970; bd. unk.; m. unk. (b. unk.; d. unk. bd. unk.) unk.
ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[age 8 in the Jun 1900
census of Jus. Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX];
[listed as
"Josie", age 17 and single, in the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
26.07--Laura A. Guinn,
b. Aug 1893; d.
unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk. (b. unk.; d. unk. bd. unk.) unk. ch.
DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[age 6 in the Jun 1900
census of Jus. Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX];
[does not
appear in Alfred's and Martha's home in the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX, and assumed
married and living elsewhere]
26.08--John
W. Guinn, b. May 1895;
d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk. (b. unk.; d. unk. bd.
unk.); div. bef. Feb 1920; unk. ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[age 5 in the Jun 1900
census of Jus. Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX];
[listed as
"Johnnie", age 13 and single, in the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
[listed as
John W. Guinn, brother-in-law, age 22 and divorced,
in the 7 Feb 1920
census of Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX, and living with
his sister and brother-in-law, Rose and Henry
Woodford Irwin]
26.09--Velma V. Guinn,
b. ca. 1901,
Navarro Co., TX;
d. 1969 in Pasadena, Harris Co., TX; bd. unk.; m. unk. (b.
unk.; d. unk. bd. unk.) unk. ch.
DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[does not appear in the
Jun 1900
census of Jus. Pct. #2, Navarro Co.,TX and assumed
b. after 1900];
[listed
as "Velma", age 9 and single, in the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
26.10--William Preston "Willie"
Guinn, b. ca. 1905;
d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk. (b. unk.; d. unk. bd. unk.) unk.
ch. DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE
[does not
appear in the Jun 1900 census of Jus. Pct.
#2, Navarro Co.,TX and assumed b. after 1900];
[listed
as "Willie", age 21 and single, in the 15 Apr 1910
census of Pct. #3, Navarro Co.,TX]
25.04--Wiley Franklin Baker Guinn,
b. 1862; d. 1950; bd. unk.; m. 1891 to Laura Bell Martin
(b. unk.; d. unk. bd. unk.) unk. ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
[listed as W. F.
B. Gwinn, 18, in the 1880 census of Grayson Co.,
TX]
25.05--John H. Guinn, b. 1864; d. 1865; bd.
unk.; m. never DESCENDANTS NOT POSSIBLE
23.00--Mary Jane
Guinn m. Charles Frazier DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
Some Pertinent Census Data
From the 15
Oct 1850 Census
of [Bladon Springs?] Choctaw Co., AL
Res/Fam
|
Name
|
Sex |
Age
|
Est DOB
fr. age
|
POB
|
Value
Real Est.
|
Occ.
|
John M. Gwin Comments
|
----/171
|
James
Guinn
|
m
|
22
|
1828
|
AL
|
100
|
planter
|
We
started
this census search in 1860 and found Wiley--and possibly
his mother (see below). 1850 is our second stop. I am
hoping and expecting to find Wiley living with his
parents. I'm also hoping and expecting to find some older
siblings. For example, this James could be an older
brother of Wiley.
|
|
Nancy
Guinn |
f
|
23
|
1827 |
SC
|
|
|
|
|
Manerva
Guinn |
f
|
3
|
1847 |
AL
|
|
|
|
----/173
|
Charles
Guinn |
m
|
29
|
1821 |
AL
|
-----
|
"Tuner"?
|
And
two
doors
away,
this Charles could be another.
|
|
Elisabeth
Guinn |
f
|
27
|
1823 |
AL
|
|
|
|
|
Mary
Jane Guinn |
f
|
7
|
1843 |
AL
|
|
|
|
|
Ann
E. Guinn |
f
|
3
|
1847 |
MS
|
|
|
|
|
E.
H. Guinn |
m
|
1
|
1849 |
AL
|
|
|
|
----/165
|
Francis
A. Guinn
|
m
|
38
|
1812 |
AL
|
2000
|
miller
|
Six
doors
away
in
the other direction is Francis, yet another possible
brother of Wiley.
|
|
Mary
B. Guinn |
f
|
40
|
1810 |
NC
|
|
|
|
|
Sarah
A. Guinn |
f
|
16
|
1834 |
AL |
|
|
|
|
Angeline
Guinn |
f
|
14
|
1836 |
AL |
|
|
|
|
Charles
Guinn |
m
|
11
|
1839 |
AL |
|
|
|
|
Reuben
Guinn |
m
|
9
|
1841 |
AL |
|
|
|
|
Jesse
Guinn |
m
|
6
|
1844
|
AL |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
But where
are Wiley and his parents? He reports in 1860
that he was born in AL, so where were they when the 1850
census came? I can't find them anywhere--in AL or not.
|
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|
|
|
|
|
From the 4
Sep 1860 Census
of Bladon Springs, Choctaw Co., AL
Res/Fam
|
Name
|
Sex |
Age
|
Est DOB
fr. age
|
POB
|
Prop. Val.
Real/Pers
|
Occ.
|
John M. Gwin Comments
|
394/394
|
Wiley
P.
Guinn
|
m
|
27
|
1833
|
AL
|
1000/380
|
farmer
|
Mary
Lee
told
us
about this 1860 census first, and we start our cenwus
search here. Here indeed is Wiley Preston Guinn in
the 1860 census, right where she said he'd be. Some
additional data can be seen here for other family members
as well.
|
|
Alletha
A. E. Guinn |
f
|
23
|
1837
|
MS
|
|
|
|
|
Joana
I. Guinn |
f
|
6
|
1854
|
AL
|
|
|
The
middle
initial
is
clearly an I, not a J, as it is distincly different from
the J in Joana and the J following Mary, next.
|
|
Mary
J. Guinn |
f
|
4
|
1856
|
AL
|
|
|
|
|
Alfred
H. Guinn |
m
|
2
|
1858
|
AL
|
|
|
Alfred Henry Guinn.
|
341/341
|
David
W.
Wright
|
m
|
42
|
1818
|
AL
|
1400/470
|
Meth Clergyman
|
Hmmm.
Living
in
the
same town is this Pastor David Wright and his family, with
whom is living...
|
|
Rebecca
Wright
|
f
|
41
|
1819
|
AL
|
|
|
|
|
Minerva
G. Wright |
f
|
16
|
1844
|
AL
|
|
|
|
|
Mary
A.
Guinn
|
f
|
68
|
1792
|
VA
|
|
|
...the
very
Mary A. Guinn of Virginia
of whom Mary Lee told me could possibly be Wiley's mother.
Good sleuthing, Mary! If it is true that she is Wiley's
mother, she was about 41 when Wiley was born, meaning he
was likely one of her youngest children if not the
youngest. So Wiley likely has older siblings for whom we
should watch. I think the 1850 census of this same
town should reveal something.
|
|
R.
S. Wright |
m
|
22
|
1838
|
AL
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
From the
Jun 1900 Census
of Justice Pct. #2, Navarro Co., TX
Res/Fam
|
Name
|
Relat
to HoH
|
Race/
Sex
|
DOB |
Age
|
MS/
YoM
|
#Ch./
Ch.Lvg/
|
POB
S/F/M
|
Occ.
|
John M. Gwin Comments
|
310/315
|
Alford
H.
Guinn
|
head
|
wm
|
May 1858
|
42
|
m/16
|
|
AL/AL/AL
|
farmer
|
Here
is
the
family
of Alfred and Martha Bell Guinn!
|
|
Martha
B.
Guinn
|
wife
|
wf
|
May 1858
|
42
|
m/16
|
8/8
|
KY/KY/KY
|
|
|
|
Nannie
B. Guinn |
daughter
|
wf
|
Apr 1885
|
15
|
s
|
|
TX/AL/KY
|
|
|
|
Alford
B. Guinn |
son
|
wm
|
Apr 1886
|
14
|
s
|
|
TX/AL/KY |
farm labor
|
|
|
Pearl
Guinn |
daughter |
wf
|
Mar 1888
|
12
|
s
|
|
TX/AL/KY |
|
|
|
Harrison
Guinn |
son
|
wm
|
Mar 1890
|
10
|
s
|
|
TX/AL/KY |
|
|
|
Rozetta
Guinn |
daughter |
wf
|
May 1891
|
9
|
s
|
|
TX/AL/KY |
|
|
|
Joe
A Guinn |
daughter |
wf
|
May 1892
|
8
|
s
|
|
TX/AL/KY |
|
|
|
Laura
A. Guinn |
daughter |
wf
|
Aug 1893
|
6
|
s
|
|
TX/AL/KY |
|
We
did
not previously know about this daughter. She has now
been added to the outline above, extending the number of
children of Alfred and Martha to at least nine.
|
|
John
Guinn |
son
|
wm
|
May 1895
|
5
|
s
|
|
TX/AL/KY |
|
We did not
previously know about this son. He has now been
added to the outline above, extending the number of
children of Alfred and Martha to at least ten.
|
From the 15
Apr 1910 Census
of Pct. #3, Navarro Co., TX
Res/Fam
|
Name
|
Relat
to HoH
|
Race/
Sex
|
Est.
DOB |
Age
|
MS/
YoM
|
#Ch./
Ch.Lvg/
|
POB
S/F/M
|
Occ.
|
John M. Gwin Comments
|
341/346
|
Alford
H.
Guinn
|
head
|
wm
|
1858
|
52
|
m1/26
|
|
MS/MS/MS!
|
farmer
|
How
strange
that
the
census taker her would quote (actually MISquote) Alfred as
being from Mississippi! We know this to not be true, that
he was in fact born in Alabama.
|
|
Martha
B.
Guinn
|
wife
|
wf
|
1858
|
52
|
m1/26
|
10/10
|
KY/KY/KY
|
|
|
|
Baker
Guinn |
son
|
wm
|
1887
|
23
|
s
|
|
TX/MS/KY |
farm labor
|
|
|
Pearl
Guinn |
daughter |
wf
|
1889
|
21
|
s
|
|
TX/MS/KY |
|
|
|
Josie
Guinn |
daughter |
wf
|
1893
|
17
|
s
|
|
TX/MS/KY |
|
|
|
Johnnie
Guinn |
son
|
wm
|
1897
|
13
|
s
|
|
TX/MS/KY |
|
|
|
Velma
Guinn |
daughter
|
wf
|
1901
|
9
|
s
|
|
TX/MS/KY |
|
|
|
Willie
Guinn |
son
|
wm
|
1905
|
5
|
s
|
|
TX/MS/KY |
|
Aha.
Now
we
have
the birth order correct. William is the baby in 1910. We
have changed this order in the outline above.
|
343/348
|
Robert
F.
Sims
|
Head
|
wm
|
|
34
|
m1/3
|
|
KY/TN/TN
|
farmer
|
|
|
Nannie
Sims
|
wife
|
wf
|
|
25
|
m1/3
|
1/1
|
TX/TX/KY
|
|
Several
factors
give
us
reason to believe this is the former Nannie Guinn: she has
the same first name; she's 25, and our Nannie was age 15
ten years ago; she's living two doors down from our
Nannie's parents; and, while Alfred's POB and that of his
parents are all out of kilter, she lists KY as her mom's
POB as does our Nannie.
|
|
Robert
L.
Sims
|
son
|
wm
|
|
3
|
s
|
|
TX/KY/TX
|
|
|
From the 2
Jan 1920 Census
of Pct. #3, Navarro Co., TX
Res/Fam
|
Name
|
Relat
to HoH
|
Race/
Sex
|
Est.
DOB |
Age
|
MS/
YoM
|
POB
S/F/M
|
Occ.
|
John M. Gwin Comments
|
---/8/8
|
Nannie
B.
Sims
|
head
|
wf
|
1885
|
35
|
w
|
TX/AL/KY
|
farmer, gen. farm
|
Ancestry.com has
mistranscribed her name as "Mannie"; however, on close
inspection at 200%, I'm certain it's "Nannie". Now I'm
further convinced than I was while viewing the 1910 census
that this is our Nannie because (1) she finally has given
a census report to someone who has recorded the POB of her
and her parents accurately--see also the 1910 census
above; and (2) her middle initial is listed--B--and our
Nannie's middle name is Bell.
|
|
Robert
L. Sims |
son
|
wm
|
1908
|
12
|
s
|
TX/KY/TX
|
|
|
|
Hamer
C. Sims |
son
|
wm
|
Jun 1911
|
8yr/7mo
|
s
|
TX/KY/TX |
|
|
|
Mattie
J. Sims |
daughter
|
wf
|
Feb 1914
|
5yr/11mo
|
s
|
TX/KY/TX |
|
|
---/15/15
|
Alfred
B.
Guinn
|
head
|
wm
|
1887
|
33
|
m
|
TX/AL/KY |
farmer, gen. farm |
Here's
Alfred
Baker
Guinn,
Nannie's brother, who is now married and the father of
five more of Wiley Preston Guinn's great-grandchildren.
|
|
Mandie
Guinn |
wife
|
wf
|
1890
|
30
|
m
|
TX/AL/TX |
|
|
|
Eula
Guinn |
daughter
|
wf
|
Aug 1911
|
8yr/5mo
|
s
|
TX/TX/TX
|
|
|
|
Floyd
Guinn |
son
|
wm
|
Oct 1913
|
6yr/3mo
|
s
|
TX/TX/TX |
|
|
|
Chester
Guinn |
son
|
wm
|
Feb 1915
|
4yr/11mo
|
s
|
TX/TX/TX |
|
|
|
Elmer
Guinn |
son
|
wm
|
Feb 1817
|
2yr/11mo
|
s
|
TX/TX/TX |
|
|
|
Clady
C.
Guinn
|
daughter
|
wf
|
Oct 1919
|
4mo
|
s
|
TX/TX/TX |
|
|
Some Good Communication
From: Shortilee918ataoldotcom
Date: October 12, 2008
To: JMcDGwin@zianet.com
Subject: Re: Possible
Relative, Choctaw, AL.----- GUINN
Hi!
Thanks for answering my email so fast.
It was my Grandmother, Rose Etta
(GUINN) Irwin, who was the Guinn connection in my family, to
Wiley P. Guinn. My grandmother's father (Alfred Henry Guinn) was
Wiley P. Guinn's son.
I appreciate the offer to add my info
to your website. Thank you so very much. I'll get all my info
together and send it to you.
I also have a family photo of Alfred
Henry Guinn's wife and children, if you have a place to post it.
(It's already on a website that pertains to my grandmother's
Guinn-Farley connection--Farley's were from Kentucky.)
Maybe the photo might help in "seeing"
similar characteristics of these GUINNs in comparison to others.
(It was Alfred Henry Guinn, my g-grandfather, who married a
Farley.)
My goodness, this genealogy can get
confusing...haha.
I'll send the info on my Guinns
asap...and again, thanks so much!
God Bless~~~~Mary Lee
In
a message dated 10/11/2008, JMcDGwin@zianet.com writes:
Hello, Mary Lee--thanks for writing--good to meet you!
I've seen your father's name many times over the years
and often wondered just how he and I are related.
I still have no idea.
But I do have a theory, and I'm fairly convinced it's at
least partially true.
I'm fully convinced that my ggggg-grandparents were
Richard Gwin and Sarah Chesley, both of whom were allegedly
born, raised, and married near Jamestown, VA. I believe that
they had at least one son, Isham/Isom, whom we know married
Mary Canterbury near Blacksburg, VA, and moved into what is
now eastern TN where they raised ten kids. Isham was a Baptist
preacher who grew to hate slavery, so when Indiana entered the
Union as a free state, he free his slaves, sold his farm, and
moved most of his family to southern Indiana. But at least two
of their sons, John and William, moved to Alabama (in
disagreement with their father), and raised their families
there. I descend from John.
Here's the theory, then: Richard had other brothers--and
sons--some of whom moved west through what is now WV and OH
and into central Indiana. Most of these other IN Gwins descend
from a man named Holmes/Homes Gwin whom we believe to be
related to Richard. But others of these VA relatives of
Richard moved south through the Carolinas and GA and into AL
that way. I think your Wiley could easily have descended from
some of them. The names Chesley Gwin and Isom Gwin surface in
several of these families; this is our greatest clue and the
theory's source.
I'd love to build a page for your family and put it in my
"As-of-yet-unrelated Gwins" site, if you're of such a mind. If
you haven't seen it yet, it's at www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/GENEALOGY/SURNAMES/Gwin/gwinsAsOfYetUnrelated.htm
.
These pages often (perhaps weekly) result in others
contacting us--just as you did tonight--with additional
information about the various published lines. The page is on
my site, so I act as the webmaster, but the page will be
partially yours as well, and I'll make additions, revisions,
and/or deletions at your direction. As others send in things,
the page will melt together as have so many others in the
past.
Yours would start off similar to this mockup of what
you've sent so far:
4.00--Wiley Preston
Guinn, b. ca. 1834 [age 26 in the 1860 census of Choctaw
Co., AL; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. ________ (b. ; d.; bd.); sev.
ch.
..........5.00--Alfred Henry Guinn, b. ca. 1858
...........................6.00-- (Mary's grandfather)
......................................7.00-- (Mary's
father)
............................................8.00--Mary
Lee
Please let me know what you think.
Best to you,
In Jesus,
John (Contact
information:)
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On Oct 11, 2008, Shortilee918ataoldotcom wrote:
My great-great grandfather was the Wiley P. (Preston)
Guinn, born abt. 1833-35, who shows up on the 1860 Fed.
census, along with his wife and children, in Choctaw Co., AL.
Their son, Alfred H. (Henry) Guinn, born ca. 1858, was my
great-grandfather.
If you think these Guinns connect with yours, please
email me back.
We think Mary A. Guinn, born abt. 1792, VA., was Wiley P.
(Preston) Guinn's mother, but we do not know to which of the
Guinn men she was married.
Thanks~~~~Mary Lee
From: Shortilee918ataoldotcom
Date: October 12, 2008
To: JMcDGwin@zianet.com
Subject: MY GUINN LINE
My Guinn Line: Any info/connections, please email me at
Shortilee918 at aol dot com
Wiley Preston Guinn, b.1832 in Choctaw Co., Ala.--d. 1892, Cooke
Co., Tx.
{His parents are still unknown. We "think" his mother may have
been Mary (?) Guinn.}
Wiley married, first: Aletha Hough, b. 1836 d. unk. Their
children were as follows:
a.
Joanna
Guinn,
b.1854 - d.1913---married a Van Parr.
b.
Mary
J.
Guinn, b. 1857- d. unk.---married Charles Jacob DeMoss.
*c.
Alfred
Henry
Guinn, (my g-grandfather), b.1858 in Choctaw Co,
Ala.,
d.1945,
in
Dallas Co., Tx.--- married in 1883, to Martha Bell
Farley.
Their
known
children were:
1.
Alfred
Baker
Guinn
2.
Nannie
Bell
Guinn
3. Pearl Guinn
4.
Harrison
Rufus
Guinn
*5.
Rose
Etta
Guinn, (my grandmother), 1891-1961,
married
Woodford
Henry
Irwin, in 1909, Navarro Co, Tx.
6. Velma Guinn
7. Joanna Guinn
8.
William
Preston
Guinn
d.
Wiley
Franklin
Baker Guinn, b. 1862 d. 1950---married Laura
Bell
Martin
in
1891.
e.
John
H.
Guinn, b. 1864 d. 1865
Hi!
The page looks great! I appreciate your
doing it, so much!
There are some corrections,
though, since I got to see the page itself...minor, I suppose,
but I'll let you be the judge of that.
ROSE ETTA (GUINN) IRWIN, daughter
of Alfred Henry Guinn and Martha Bell (Farley) Guinn, was my
Dad's mother, and not my Mom's. Rose Etta Guinn-Irwin had 5
children: a daughter who died at 5-months old; 2 sons who died
in the late 1990's; a daughter who is still living and is 94;
and a son, (my Dad), who is 86 now.
Also, I found the birth
dates/death dates, this morning, for some of Alfred Henry
Guinn's children, if you think that would be helpful and where
some are buried. Let me know. [My 94-year-old aunt provided me
with this info.]
I'll probably just send you what I now
have, per my conversation with my aunt this morning, and you can
decide whether it should be included, okay? I'm relatively "new"
to what details to include. So sorry for the lack of experience
in compiling info...I'm working on it, though.
Have a great day and be blessed~~~~Mary
Lee
Here's additional information
on some of the children of
MARTHA BELL (Farley) GUINN and ALFRED HENRY GUINN, son of
Wiley Preston Guinn and Aletha (Hough) Guinn.
(not in order of
birth)
1. Alfred Baker Guinn,
b.1886, in Powell, Navarro Co., Tx., d.1969.
2. Nannie Bell Guinn,
b.1884, in Kerens, Navarro Co., Tx., d.1957, Irving,
Dallas Co., Tx.
3. Pearl Guinn, b.1888,
Dallas Co., Tx., d.1968, Dallas, Tx.
4. Harrison Rufus Guinn,
b.1889, Dallas, Tx., d.1944, Corsicana, Navarro Co., Tx.
5. Rose Etta Guinn, b.1891,
Powell, Navarro Co., Tx., m. Woodford Henry Irwin,1909,
Navarro Co., Tx.; d.1961, Borger, Hutchinson Co., Tx. [She and
Mr. Irwin had 5
children; two of which are still living, as of 2008, ages 94 and
86.] Rose and Mr. Irwin
are
both buried in Amarillo, Potter Co., Tx.]
6.Velma V. Guinn,
b.1900, Navarro Co., Tx., d.1969, Pasadena, Harris County, TX.
7. Anna Guinn, b.
1893, Corsicana, Navarro Co., Tx., d. 1970
PS: Sorry for the late additions.
God Bless,
~~~Mary Lee
Following is a copy of Genforum.com posting no. 1044 on
the Cocke
Family Forum posted 23 Jun 2009 and entitled Descendants of Rebecca COCKE, d/o Jester
COCKE and Sarah COLE.
Thanks to Phil Crowther for his extensive research on Charles
COCKE and Jester COCKE - AKA: Jester COX - Jester COKE - Jester
COCKES - Jester COCHES - Jester COCK - Jester COCKS
The parents of Jester COCKE are unknown.
Rebecca is the daughter of Jester and Sarah Cole COCKE. (Sarah is the
daughter of James and Averiler Daniel COLE.)
Descendants of Rebecca Cocke:
1 Rebecca
Cocke b: Bef. 1765 VA d: Aft. 1817 ..+James
Fitzgerald b: 1760 Amelia County, VA d: 17 Apr
1817 Madison County, AL m: Bef. 1783 Father: William (Sr)
Fitzgerald Mother: Elizabeth Irby
..........2 John (Sr) Fitzgerald b: 1783 VA d: 1875 Washington
County, AR ....+Mary Ann Couch b: 09 Mar 1794 Orange County, NC d:
Bet. 1861 - 1870 m: 1808 Ashe County, NC Father: Edward Couch
Mother: Mary Whitworth
....................3 James Fitzgerald b: 01 Jul 1809 Madison
County, AL
....................3 Isaac Selby Fitzgerald b: 17 Dec 1814 AL d:
14 Oct 1894 Hess County, OK
....................3 John (Jr) Fitzgerald b: 19 Jan 1833 AR d:
Aft. 1850
....................3 Elmyra Fitzgerald b: 1837 AR d: Aft. 1850
.......... 2 Mary Ann Fitzgerald b:
1792 VA d: ca 1870 Choctaw County, AL ....+Henry Guinn
b: ca 1792 NC d: ca 1844 Choctaw County, AL m: ca 1810 Madison
County, AL Father: Charles Guinn
....................3 Wesley Guinn b: 1810 AL d: Aft. 1850
......+Jane (Guinn) b: 1820 TN d: Aft. 1850 m: Bef. 1834
....................3 Francis A. Guinn b: 1812 AL d: Aft. 1850
......+Mary B. (Guinn) b: 1810 NC d: Aft. 1850 m: Bef. 1834
....................3 Elizabeth Guinn b: 1816 AL d: Aft. 1850
......+Jesse Austin Wright b: 13 Jan 1812 Laurens County, SC d:
Aft. 1850 m: Bef. 1833 Father: James Wright Mother: Nancy Clardy
....................3 Rebecca Guinn b: 1819 AL d: Aft. 1860
......+David W. Wright b: 1818 AL d: Aft. 1860 m: Bef. 1838
Father: James Wright Mother: Nancy Clardy
....................3 Charles Franklin Guinn b: 1821 d:
1891 Collins County, TX ......+Elizabeth Husbands b: 1823 Bibb
County, AL d: Aft. 1863 m: Bef. 1842
....................3 James W. Guinn b: 1828 AL d: Aft. 1850
......+Nancy (Guinn) b: 1827 AL d: Aft. 1850 m: Bef. 1847
....................3 Wiley P. Guinn b: 1833 AL d: Aft. 1860
......+Aletha A. E. (Guinn) b: 1837 MS d: Aft. 1860
.......... 2 Nancy Fitzgerald b: Bef. 1794 d: Aft. 1817
....+Alexander Baxter b: Bef. 1794 d: Aft. 1812 m: 17 Jan
1812 Madison County, AL
.......... 2 Pheba Fitzgerald b: Bef. 1797 d: Aft. 1817
....+John ? Hellums b: Bef. 1797 d: Aft. 1809 m: Bef. 1817
.......... 2 Elizabeth Fitzgerald b: Bef. 1798 VA d: 1837 Wolf
Creek, Pike County, AR ....+John (Sr) Humphrey b: Bef. 1796 d:
Bef. 1820 Madison County, AL m: 12 Dec 1814 Madison County, AL
....................3 Nancy Humphrey b: Bet. 1814 - 1820
....................3 James Humphrey b: Bet. 1814 - 1820
....................3 John Humphrey b: Bet. 1814 - 1820
.......... *2nd Husband of Elizabeth Fitzgerald....+Elijah (Sr)
Kelley b: 14 Sep 1800 Jackson County, TN d: 26 Aug 1884 Wolf
Creek, Pike County, AR m: 1820 Madison County, AL Father:
Giles Kelley Mother: Martha Ford DeJarnette
....................3 Nancy Kelley b: 26 Feb 1829 Clark County, AR
d: 11 Oct 1870 Jefferson County, TX......+Andrew Jackson Ward b:
13 Jul 1818 Clark County, AR d: 10 Mar 1867 Jefferson County, TX;
m: Bef. 1849 Father: James Isaac Ward Mother: Mildred Clark Gentry
.......... 2 Theodorick Fitzgerald b: Bef. 1799 d: Bet. 1817 -
1831 ....+Harriett Johnston b: Bef. 1801 d: Aft. 1831 m: 21 Mar
1817 Madison County, AL
....................3 Sallie Harriett Fitzgerald b: Aft. 1817 2
Rebecca Fitzgerald b: Aft. 1799
From:
Date: July 24, 2009 2:20:28 PM MDT
To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com (John Gwin)
Subject: !!! Re: private, re:Guinn, Wiley Preston
Hi again....
Just in case you are interested, I wanted to alert you that I just
found out that *allegedly* there exists a will for James
FITZGERALD, AKA: James Fitz GERALD.
With info from Phil Crowther, I was able alert a descendant who
has researched the FITZGERALDS about Jester COCKE and his daughter
Mary Ann who married James FITZGERALD - whose daughter Mary Ann
Fitzgerald GUINN is the mother of Wiley Preston GUINN.
Anyway, due to the paucity of information about Jester COCKE, his
daughter Mary Ann Cocke FITZGERALD and her daughter Mary Ann
Fitzgerald GUINN -- I thought that the discovery of a will for
James FITZGERALD *might* be of interest to you.
HOPEFULLY, the poster will email a copy of it to Phil, so that the
contents can be posted online.
TAKE CARE!!!
READ THE GENFORUM POSTING HERE:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/guinn/messages/1941.html
Maranda,
Thank you very much for your help. I'm looking forward to
investigating the Cocke family and the connection to the
Fitzgerald family. I do have a copy of James Fitzgerald's (Fitz
Gerald)will found in Madison Co., Al.
Sincerely, Marken Gerhardt
Hello, Marken!
Hello, Marken!
I had NO idea that there was a will available for James Fitzgerald
AKA James Fitz Gerald.
Is it posted anywhere online?
Phil Crowther has an extensive website about his ancestor, Charles
COCKE -- who many people presume was the brother of Jester COCKE.
Here are 2 pages on his website where the surname FITZGERALD is
mentioned:
http://home.southwind.net/~crowther/Cocke/Jester.htm
http://home.southwind.net/~crowther/Cocke/_StateAR.htm
Phil has also brought together all the information about Jester
COCKE, the father-in-law of James Fitz Gerald -- there are quite a
few pages on his website devoted to *the* Jesters, PLURAL - as
there seem to be (at least) 5 different individuals by this name.
ONE of them is the father of Mary Ann who married James
FITZGERALD.
Can you email a copy of the will to Phil? OR... can you transcribe
it in a posting on genforum?
Thanks so much, Marken!
