Champion Guinn
and
Dorcas Williams



Page updated 27 Nov 2010


The reformatting of the name font and census data for this page has been completed. --John M. Gwin, Aug 2011


An Outline of the Known Family So Far


[
JohnM. Gwin Note: Actually, it is not at all known to me if this family is even related to the family for which Kathy Guinn Edwards is looking; nevertheless, in Nov. 2010 I used some of the data Kathy sent me to begin to look for her ancestors.  I did a search on Ancestry.com for anyone named Champion in the 1850 U. S. census (with no other parameters), and while there were many hits, I found only one Champion Gwinn, b. ca. 1825 in TN.  I have placed him and his family here as a beginning of the outline.  A similar search in the 1860 censuses turned up a Champion Guinn in MO, b. in TN, who doesn't appear to be the same as the first person.  Then I saw "Champn Gwin" in the first census (1790) who is evidently married with two children, a boy and a girl.  If he is the ancestor of our Champion, below, b. ca. 1825, then perhaps he is our Champion's grandfather, whose son would then perhaps be Champion, Jr., making our Champ Champion III.  This is all speculation, of course, so please don't quote me.]




00.00--Champion Gwinn, b. ca. 1825 in TN; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Rebecca A. (b. ca. 1824; d/ unk.; bd. unk.); at least 2 ch.

00.00--George M. Gwinn, b. ca. 1844 in TN; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

00.00--Sarah E. Gwinn, b. ca. 1846 in TN; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.


Some Interesting Census Data


Name: Champn Givin
[Champn Gwin] 
[Champn Gwin
Home in 1790 (City, County, State): Wilkes, North Carolina
Free White Males - <16: 1
Free White Males - 16+: 1
Free White Females: 2
Total in Household: 4

Name: Champion Gwinn
Age: 25
YOB: abt 1825
POB: Tennessee
Gender: Male
Home in
1850:
District 2,
Hardin, TN
Household Members:
Name Age
Champion Gwinn 25
Rebecca A Gwinn 26
George M Gwinn 6
Sarah E Gwinn 4


Name: Champion Guinn
Age: 37
YOB: abt 1823
POB: Tennessee
Home in
1860:
Osceola,
St Clair, MO
Gender: Male
PO: Osceola
Household Members:
Name Age
Champion Guinn 37
Nancy E Guinn 23
S P Guinn 2
L A Guinn 10/12




Some Good Communication


I saw your info about Isham/Isom Guinn. 

I have been trying to find Champion Guinn's family; he was b. probably NC/TN in about 1760-70, as he md. Dorcas Williams in Wilkes/Burke Co., NC, later Washington Co., TN, then later another county because of boundary changes [John M. Gwin Note: Washington County: Guin, Champ m. Williams, Dorcas on 26 Dec 1787]

Later he was in Franklin Co., TN, about 1830-50--I forgot.

Then his family was in Jackson Co., AL

Your info had a Champe Carter McCulloch in it. Could he have been named from him? [John M. Gwin Note: I don't think so, since it was John Gwin's granddaughter, Emma Basset, (d/o Louis and Sarah Gwin Basset) who married into the McCulloch line.]

I also am looking for John Guinn who I was told was my direct line but I am having trouble finding him. 

Could Champion be a nickname? 

Champion had a son/grandson (hard to tell for sure) Elious/Elias Henderson Guinn/Guin

Elias had a brother William Guin who came from VA and was a blacksmith. 

They lived in Stevenson, AL, in about 1860-80 maybe.

Any info appreciated.  The Guinns not only are mixed up, I think, but spell name so many ways.

Kathy Guinn Edwards





1. gwin.htm
http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/gwin.htm
G w i n Return to Genealogy Section, Personal Information page My father'soldest brother, James Bassett ...
... 1940 6.1-- william henderson gwin B. 17 aug 1883; D. 23 nov 1965;M. ...

3. nancieosullivan.htm
http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/nancieosullavin.htm
Line of Nancie O'Sullavin Return to Gwin Page Return to Home Page Returnto Surnames in Genealogical ...
... gwinn , M. charles henderson 6.8-- imogene gwinn , M. rev. hiram...

 




From: "kathy edwards" <kated35765@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed Feb 15, 2006  10:09:10 PM US/Mountain
To: JMcDGwin@zianet.com
Subject: Gwin's

Hello,
I saw an old post I had made and you said to send what I had on Champion. I don't remember if I ever did that or not so here it is.  I hope you can fit him in somewhere.

1840 Census  Franklin Co., TN
Champion Guinn,
Daniel,
Mrs. Sarah,
Wm. ,
Elisha,
Mrs Uriah
I think this was a younger Champion but not sure or maybe he moved back and forth.  It is very close to Jackson Co., AL.

One John T. Guinn was in Washington Co., TN Roll #535 at the time.
Do you have info on him and is he related to Champion??  Was he a brother??
 

Champion Guin, family 2,   5th Co. Morgan Dist, Burke Co., NC  census 1790
1830 Jackson Co., AL
Champion Guinn  M  1  70/80            F  1  60/70
                          1  15/20                1  20/30
                                                        1 5/10

Also a Daniel age 30/40   and a John  age 40/50 listed

There is a Chamby Gwin  1823 and 1821 listed on Little Doe Creek prob Carter Co. TN

A Champion Guinn on 1798 Carter Co., TN Tax List I think.

Champion Guinn  md. 12/26/1787 Burke or Wilkes Co., NC or called Washington Co., TN to Dorcas Williams

There was a Champion Guinn  3 M under 10,  2 M 10/16 and 2M 16/26 in Lincoln Co. TN 1820
This was the younger Champion but was he son to Champion Sr.?
Also listed was Sally age 16/26 lived alone,
Daniel  16/26,
Isham  26/45, and
William  16/26

1840 Franklin Co., TN
Champion Guinn   10011 - 100001  Whatever the ages werefor M/F
Also listed were
Daniel,
Mr. Sarah,
Wm Gunn, and
Elisha Gunn

Also, do you know who the John Guinn was who md Emily L. Shryock Nov.4, 1822  wit. Daniel Guinn  in Carter co. TN?
One older man said there was a Scurlock in the family who md John Guinn,this comes as close as I can find but do not know anymore about John andEmily.

Franklin Co., TN  Champion Guinn to Rebecca Jackson  10/16/1841
Probably younger Champ??          Also in 1838 and around that time Champion Guinn
was always having to go to court here and pay fines?  He was usuallywith some with last name Willliams.
 

Would also like to know who Polly Guinn md Issac Blanton  Dec.27, 1821 in Mogan Co., AL
Was she kin to these.  I think her name was Mary "Polly"

Also  who are these Guin's:

Wm. Guin wills to sons John and Wm. all lands to be divided between them, land adjoins Elijah Guin to fence that divides my land from John Guin's and the son's to take their mother to live with one or the other of them and both support her.  To son Elton $30.00, son Elijah, Ezekial, Elias, dau. Mary 5 shillings each.  Found in Book 7  1808-1816 pg. 467  2-18-1814 proved 11-1814
I think Granville Co., NC??   There is one Ezekeal age 16/26 in Sumner Co., TN in 1820
Others were John, Isaac, Edwin? Jr., James, James Jr.

Also, sorry to ask so many questions, but do you know who the 1870 Jackson Al census Long Island guinns were?
Guinn, P. H.   58  carpenter b. 1812 GA   What did P. H. stand for??  Was this the Guinns from
        Sarah C.  53       1817  GA                    Dade Co., GA?  It is within 30 min or less from
Williams, Wm. N  39  carpenter b. 1831 GA        Jackson Co., AL
            Catherine  32   b. 1838  GA
and all their kids.

Sorry so many questions, but thought I'd put people in that I thought were connected. We have probably been over this before but I can't remember if I ever read your post about getting back with you or not.
Sorry,
Kathy




From: "Mike Walker" <walk5755@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat Aug 12, 2006  10:28:18 AM US/Mountain
To: "Jim Wall" <JAMESTWALL@aol.com>, "'John Gwin'" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: FW: tennessee marriages

John and Jim, Googling around the other day at lunch I found some interesting info on the net that I thought you might like to see. Mike
 
http://members.aol.com/chrishayne/tnmargs.htm
 
BRADLEY CO.

Amanda Tennessee Haines................James Kinsey Guinn..........15 Mar 1870
Washington County:
Guin, Champ......Williams, Dorcas...on 26 Dec 1787
WHISLER, Phoebe..........marr........GWINN, William..................on 09-NOV-1837
Greene County:
RETTOR, Sarah..............marr..........GUIN, James....................on 11-AUG-1823
RUSH, Catherine............marr..........WALKER, James.................on 30-MAR-1790
WALKER, Charles...........marr..........BURKET, Peggy...................on 13-NOV-1824
WALKER, Daniel...........marr..........KILGORE, Martha..............on 26-MAY-1788
WALKER, James............marr...........MORROW, Mary..................on 21-SEP-1790
WALKER, James...........marr..........RUSH, Catherine...............on 30-MAR-1790
WALKER, Lettice...........marr...........FRY, Martin......................on 23-DEC-1824
WALKER, Samuel...........marr...........GRAY, Polly.......................on 22-NOV-1824
WALKER, Sarah.............marr...........DAVIS, Thomas..................on 07-APR-1795
WALKER, Thomas.........marr...........MCGILL,Elizabeth..............on 06-OCT-1787
WALKER, William..........marr............BUCKINGHAM, Ann..............on 24-NOV-1786
Cocke County (Last column is minister or jp)